josh817 Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 Nats in my primer. Fiberglass air dam had some cracks in it, thought the paint would get in there and at least make it less visible. Actually, the air dam had the most runs in it where as my spoiler came out fine.... Lovely Datsun side pillar where the roof meets up with the rest of the car, filled in with lead. There is also lead down where the windshield meets up in the two bottom corners. Now time for Dynaglass! Then another layer of this primer which I will sand, then sealer, 2 coats of color, 3 coats of clear, done! If only it were that easy huh? All of this is way better than what I was doing... sanding the entire car down to bare metal with a carbon disk on a die grinder... That took FOREVER! Actually a month, but still come on. And yes, I'm doing a ratty job and painting over that back hatch outer weather strip because I don't want to buy more since I am poor. It will flake off eventually, probably with the rest of the paint on the car knowing my luck... This primer didn't cover up my "feathered" paint in the areas I couldn't get to. Especially like around the windshield, I purposely left a tiny bit of gasket showing because the old WHITE paint is under there and I just want to paint over it. I'm going to a dark blue so any white showing will be killer. I didn't touch up the door/hatch jams at all because those will be rattle can black, not wasting my automotive paint on areas I know will be hit and chipped. All this stuff I'm worried about showing through I think will be fine with more painting to come. Blue is opaque and I may reduce it 80% rather than 100% so it stays a little thick, all depends. First time to ever spray a car and I had several runs with this primer which was 1:1 primer/reducer and I used a quart of each so thats 2 quarts of fluid for one coat on the entire car. The lady gave me 2 quarts of base with 1 quart of reducer so I'm worried I won't have enough... Actually wait... I'm rattle canning the jams and the rear spoiler so that MAY save me. Who knows, I'm new to this, thought I'd throw in a quick update see what people think otherwise this would be in the paint and body section. PS: My primer sprayed on runny in some spots and I realized I had a 1.4mm nozzle in the gun so I'm guessing to compensate for the lack of spray I held the gun a bit too close to the car causing the runs. I also have a 1.8mm tip but if I have to be thrifty with my base coat then I definitely don't want to be dumping paint everywhere... I think 2 quarts was a bit much for one coat over the entire car. I basically have 2 quarts of everything and no more money for more paint so this is what I have to work with... I found myself spraying over parts of the car which were already sprayed but flashing so it turned darker than the wet paint and I thought I had missed a spot or something so I went back over it. First spray with some waste, I bet it will get better... Well... I HOPE. Come onnnnnn baby just last me 6 years of college and I will have it professionally done! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockerstar Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 Where did you paint the car at? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rturbo 930 Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 Kinda looks like your rear 1/4 has been replaced - that is one ugly joint. I really hope I'm wrong. What blue are you going with? I love blue Datsuns! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh817 Posted April 23, 2009 Author Share Posted April 23, 2009 Drive way, was 6:30PM so all the critters were out. When I do my sealer, base, and clear, you do it all after they flash so its like wait 30 minutes between each coats. What I'm saying is that I'll do that in the morning before the bugs come out, this way nothing will land in the paint before it flashes and dries. Or I could do it in the garage but my flaw is that the car is taped up and I can't get in there to steer. Haha, stupid mistake, I'll just jack up the rear so its just off the ground and push it to where it needs to go. Right now the keys are in the ignition so the wheel doesn't lock and I have it so that I can roll it straight out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh817 Posted April 23, 2009 Author Share Posted April 23, 2009 Kinda looks like your rear 1/4 has been replaced - that is one ugly joint. I really hope I'm wrong. What blue are you going with? I love blue Datsuns! Never thought about that but it makes perfect sense. My drivers door isn't a 240 where the passengers is so I'm guessing it was hit. The quarter panel on the drivers side is the one that has that crappy joint, plus it has some trim holes which were filled in. They probably replaced those two things. The front panel was fine with nothing unusual. The joint on the other side looks normal so I guess this is what I have to deal with... Previous previous owners... Yes, double previous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rturbo 930 Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 Previous previous owners... Yes, double previous.Amen, I know exactly what you're talking about... Although I have much less damage to deal with on the car I'm actually keeping... kept... I cut the other up already. And yeah, what really tipped me off was the joint at the bottom, looks kinda like it was TIGed or something. I don't really know, since I'm not an expert but it doesn't look factory. Better than rivets though (guess what my PO used on the now-cut-up car) Anyway, can't wait to see it completed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh817 Posted April 23, 2009 Author Share Posted April 23, 2009 I wanted red but then someone made a good point. "Well what color is your Z car again?" - "red" - "Ah, every sports cars color, could have guessed". Then I saw the price difference. PPG/Dupont $170/quart, Nason, $70/quart with reducer. Yes I know, quality is way different but I just need to get this thing painted before I dive into college poverty. I was looking at the grays too. The paint place ahd this giant binder of colors and it just overwhelmed me because I'm not artistic, not even close, and I'm sitting here going thats the same color as... that, and that, and that. So I pretty much just looked in there and found a blue and said ok I want that one. Then the lady was like "eh that one is a bit more expensive because of the metallic" so I just went to the one beside it, which was the same color (alright fine, argue with me that it wasn't the same color, but it was ). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rturbo 930 Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 Good choice. That's one of the colors I'm trying to decide between for when I eventually paint my car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh817 Posted April 23, 2009 Author Share Posted April 23, 2009 Yah and I like the look of black flares and spoiler so thats why I'm spray bombing my spoiler with like black krylon. This primer doesn't say whether its lacquer or enamel or acrylic and I need to match my rattle can paint with the primer so it doesn't flake off. :[ I have a feeling that my brake kit won't fit under the 14" wheels and I'm not buying a different set so if I have to get longer studs and space the wheel out I will need flares. I hate fiberglass so I don't want the ones we see on here. Started to look into getting a fender roller and seeing if that will roll that inside lip and maybe flare out the panel a little so its natural? Dad is renting a roller now so whatever happens should be before I paint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rturbo 930 Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 I have a feeling that my brake kit won't fit under the 14" wheels and I'm not buying a different set so if I have to get longer studs and space the wheel out I will need flares. I hate fiberglass so I don't want the ones we see on here. Started to look into getting a fender roller and seeing if that will roll that inside lip and maybe flare out the panel a little so its natural? Dad is renting a roller now so whatever happens should be before I paint.Eh, If you find you need bigger wheels, there's always the 15" snowflakes available. I think that would be a much better and easier solution than what you mentioned. I don't think the results would be good if you tried to use the fender roller to push the panel out, instead of just rolling the lips. I say just get bigger wheels if you need to. If you know where to look, it won't be expensive. I realize you're on a budget though. Some used snowflakes with used tires should get you by though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh817 Posted April 23, 2009 Author Share Posted April 23, 2009 I like my supra wheels :[ I would also have to get tires too. Pft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbyc Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 that joint was lead filled from the factory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh817 Posted April 23, 2009 Author Share Posted April 23, 2009 Don't think that sloppy though. Well maybe it was a dud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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