Negligence Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Its a 1995 Saturn sl1, i posted on the saturn forums but they are very slow and i am freaking out, i have three finals this week, work full time, and am barely hanging in there, i know there is a lot of knowledge on this forum and i really hope someone knows whats going on based on thse symptoms Lately, it has become impossible to get my car in gear, i literally need to use two hand to shove it into gear and when i was driving, the car would only shift into gear at around 1800rpms, it would just drop right in, no grinding, the car also did not grind when forcing into gear initially i drove from home to school about 45 min, and when i got off the exit, i put the car in nuetral, and after that i coudlnt get the car back into gear, and sat there for 10 minutes, i finally got it to grind into 3rd and barely made it to my building. Side note - even when it was impossible to shove the car in gear, it did not grind, and when shifting gears, it did not grind, it fell right into gear if i left it pushed against it. About 5 hours later, i went to my car to get my stuff and just to see, i tried putting the car into gear, and to my disbelief, it went it every gear no issue except for reverse the car was not running but im almost positive it didnt do this before then I changed the tranny fluid this weekend, it did not help whatsoever Does anyone have any clue whats going on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZXR_KiD Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 check all the linkages make sure nothings bent or anything unusual, could be a synchro or internal mechanism issue, doesn't sound like it would be the clutch if its not slipping at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kennysgreen280zt Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Your slave or master cyl is probably going bad. Has your clutch pedal felt strange at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negligence Posted December 14, 2009 Author Share Posted December 14, 2009 it hasnt felt weird...do mechanics charge for estimating whats wrong? i know it sounds dumb but...i've never been in this situation, and i do not like it one bit... Your slave or master cyl is probably going bad. Has your clutch pedal felt strange at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ModernS30 Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Only 2 things I would think it would be, synchros or you need a slave/master cylinder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negligence Posted December 14, 2009 Author Share Posted December 14, 2009 i really hope its the slave/master cylinder, tranny synchros dont usually go at the mileage im at, and i dont really beat on it Only 2 things I would think it would be, synchros or you need a slave/master cylinder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ModernS30 Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 I would check the slave first, just have somebody look at it while you push the clutch, heck, you could just try bleeding the clutch. Maybe that could fix it. Some mechanics will do a free quote, but not a lot. Good luck man! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
280znoob Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 a friend of mine had this car and this exact thing happened, her linkages some how got bunched up and pinched and it wouldnt let her move the stick.. a mechanic replaced the links but the synchros where fine, clutch was fine too... fixed problem... replace linkages... when she moved the stick it felt like you where pushing upagainst something... and had very very little 'play'... check links mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galloguy05 Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 i had this problem on my Z. I had never owned a stick before and one day i went to drive it and I noticed the clutch had no feel to it and the car wouldn't go into gear unless I absolutely FORCED it to (which most of the time i couldn't even do that!). Turns out, I had no fluid in my clutch master cylinder because the clutch slave cylinder was leaking the fluid past the seal. Hopefully its the same issue for you. Im assuming it shouldnt be too hard of a fix; but then again, I dont know much about saturns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negligence Posted December 14, 2009 Author Share Posted December 14, 2009 Yea, i checked again this morning, the car can go into every gear no issue when the car is off, but once i turn it on, it cant go into any gear, but it can move from right to left no problem. Im gonna start the car in 2nd gear and bring it to mechanic by my school tomorrow morning, hes only about 3 miles away, i think i can make it that far cruising in 2nd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rags Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Sure sounds like a clutch hydraulic problem to me. Check for fluid leaking around the slave and for fluid leaking inside the firewall where the clutch master rod connects to the clutch pedal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONGO510 Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 My Son's Saturn had a similar problem and I found it had a bad pressure plate. Fun job! Mongo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rags Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Mongo, I'm curious, any time I had the symptoms described above and the problem was the pressure plate, the symptoms also contained a vicious howl when the clutch was depressed and a very strange pedal feel. Was that not the case with your son's car? Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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