s30zgt Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 I did a search and didnt find anything on tein coilovers specific to the s30 model. Came across these while researching options for my suspension. Just wanted to share the info. Tein made to order info: http://www.tein.co.jp/e/products/spd.html reference data for completed orders: http://www.tein.co.jp/spd/spd_search.cgi?lang=en Protec Aragosta coilovers: http://www.protec-s20.co.jp/gtr/aragosta_s30.html With the yen artificially devalued, the dollar is a little bit stronger. so if you have the money... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluDestiny Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 I feel like people are too cheap for that. lol. Personally I'd rather do it myself, because I know I cana and it will probably be cheaper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s30zgt Posted April 25, 2013 Author Share Posted April 25, 2013 (edited) Yeah i know most people feel that way but for those without those skills, its another option. Though at around 280000 yen (2814 usd) its about the same some off the shelf kits. http://www.tein.co.jp/spd/spd_search.cgi?id=130205-4S&lang=en Edited April 26, 2013 by s30zgt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfer.tech Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 The aragosta unit is close to 5000 US. Tein is around 3000 US but I find their products inferior for the price you pay for custom coilovers. Teins have a tendency to rust quickly and their normal coilovers cost much less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneStarS30Z Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 Whoa, Aragosta making S30 sus? That's awesome, but good lord that price! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfer.tech Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 ^ they have been making coilovers for S30 for a while now. Just all custom order stuff. Most of the Rocky Auto cars run Aragosta suspension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s30zgt Posted April 29, 2013 Author Share Posted April 29, 2013 (edited) Wow I didnt know about that with the Tein's. My friend had a set of their coilovers for his ek9 hatch for several years and we never had any issues of rust or failures, and this was back in Houston, TX where it rains every other day and is at a constant 100% humidity. That was back in the early 2000's so maybe their quality has gone down in recent years? Any part in particular where rust has been known to happen? Top hat? Spring? adjusters? All over haha? Ive never had any experience with Aragosta parts, though my other friend has a g35 with Top Secret's coilovers which i believe Aragosta supplies and he is pretty happy with them. He got them for around 3500. Edited April 29, 2013 by s30zgt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfer.tech Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 Mine rusted at the springs and siezed up. It was for a 06 STi. Star road japan has a set of coilovers for the same price as the tein. No experience with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s30zgt Posted May 2, 2013 Author Share Posted May 2, 2013 Ah ok, sorry to hear about that surfer.tech. Thanks for the info about those star road coilovers. My japanese is a bit rusty, is that the price for front and rear? They only show 2 in their picture. http://www.starroad.co.jp/home/2008/04/s30_3.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s30zgt Posted May 2, 2013 Author Share Posted May 2, 2013 Since we have been talking about japanese coilovers, I remembered that rs-start also made some. Theirs I believe use ohlins coilover parts so maybe worth the price? http://www.rsstart.com/page.cgi?k=3 http://www.jdmlegends.com/?p=480 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfer.tech Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 Since we have been talking about japanese coilovers, I remembered that rs-start also made some. Theirs I believe use ohlins coilover parts so maybe worth the price? http://www.rsstart.com/page.cgi?k=3 http://www.jdmlegends.com/?p=480 It would be worth it if you had a S30 fully worked. Those Ohlins cost more than a good conditon S30 lol. I do prefer the bolt-on specific S30 applications rather than the modified stuff. I will probably be using the Star Road coilovers, as I know the owner. And the price is correct for the set on the site but it does not include the spindles. He can include it as an option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s30zgt Posted May 21, 2013 Author Share Posted May 21, 2013 It would be worth it if you had a S30 fully worked. Those Ohlins cost more than a good conditon S30 lol. I do prefer the bolt-on specific S30 applications rather than the modified stuff. I will probably be using the Star Road coilovers, as I know the owner. And the price is correct for the set on the site but it does not include the spindles. He can include it as an option. Nice. You should see if he could arrange a group buy. I too also like the bolt-on coilover application and im sure there are many others that are willing to spend a little extra for high quality s30 specific parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mal_tiempo Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 The price on those Star Road coilovers is right up my alley, but shipping from Japan will hurt... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snailed Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 Apart from what the marketing and pop culture tells you, isn't TEIN stuff pretty much a joke in the damper world? Does the green anodizing and paint represent the money in their massive profit margins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfer.tech Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 ^ The Tein stuff is not bad considering its regular price point. This one on the other hand is expensive since it is a made-to-order part. Tein at least does some R&D (rally, time attack, street cars) IMHO the bad stuff is the Megan racing stuff everyone is shoving into their S30s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snailed Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 I bet your right about the Megan stuff. I have little experience with dampers on a technical level but this seems like a guy that has some fairly educated recommendations on dampers or at least what to test for. http://farnorthracing.com/autocross_secrets6.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnc Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 In general, shocks built for the Japanese market have too much compression damping for US roads and race tracks. Our Tarmac surfaces are much bumpier then the surfaces in Japan and the shocks needs more compliance in bump to let the tires grip well. Also, most car owners think a stiff ride means good handling so low and medium priced shocks are made with more compression damping the ideal for grip. Good shocks are generally $300 a corner and up in price. That's just the shock, not the spring, camber plate, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snailed Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 That seems to be true of most of the Japanese coilovers I have installed. A few had pretty soft compression damping, but they were not the shiny anodized super, ultra low ones everyone gets. I'm cheap; What about taking a rebuildable racing shock like a Bilstein or Koni and valving it to match the specific application. Like these for $150? http://www.shockwarehouse.com/site/product.cfm?id=14103. Ones like these are dirt cheap and readily available on the used market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnc Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 The Bilstein P30s are the exception to my $300 per unit cost mentioned above. Revalving is $60 per shock from Bilstein Motorsports in Poway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snailed Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 hmm, I have free access to a shock dyno, we stock various shock oils at work and the Bilstein linear valving kits are about $275 my cost. What are the chances I could put together something that would work better than slamming in some non-rebuildable coilover shocks? I am pretty good (everyone thinks that I bet) at picking up on handling traits and changes, I used to do a bit of autocross setup and driving so I think I could dial in some shocks as long as I had time to test each change. Am I dreaming or would this be a good route for a 90% street car? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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