mannnnnn, u guys are rough, haha, just kidding, i am new to this
anyway, yeah the posts are clean as are the points where they connect, and it can't be the battery because as the first post said, i tried 2 different working batteries
the car was outa gear when i tried to start her, and the car doesn't have a neutral safety, not to mention if it did, i would have gotten no response from the starter at all
the cables could be a viable option, the only reason i am doubting it is anything with the starter is the starter moves, AND the somewhat coincidental big leak whenever i hit the clutch
on the other hand i appreciate all of the suggestions, and im gonna start working through them when i get outa work in an hour
and joe, i am in Ocean City, so i am most likely waaayyy south of the rest of you jersey guys