Yea, I know. I was just saying that I have a similar set-up to what you're describing. I've heard my car with an open header and its LOUD. Don't get me wrong, I love loud cars but this would definitely be too loud to drive around town or anything. I would assume that the pipe (even w/o the muffler) would quiet it down some but it would still probably be too loud. I don't know for sure though.