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Engine free revs when in neutral.. only if A/C is engaged?
PhaTTy replied to PhaTTy's topic in Nissan L6 Forum
Don't hear a hiss that continues. As I said, once you move the vent / (a/c) / bi-level lever from the left side ( A/C , vent ) to the right side ( fresh, defrost, etc ) , it fixes the problem. Moving the bottom temperature control from cold to hot does not affect it. Turning the fan off also fixes the problem.. This makes me think it is something electrical and not vacuum as turning the fan off wouldn't stop a flapper/door vacuum leak, would it? Would a faulty air regulator do this ( may also be known as Auxiliary Air Valve? ) cause the idle spike? I am referring to this: I can't think of what else on the engine would cause it to free rev when the A/C might be engaged. Does this seem logical, or could it be something else? -
Alright.. I have a fun one for you. My friend has a 76 280z L28. He started experiencing an odd issue today. When he presses in the clutch or leaves the car in neutral, the car free revs up to about 3,000 rpm by itself. He says if you put your foot under the accelerator pedal and pull up on it, it stops. He then gave me an interesting tidbit of information. He had the fan on. He said if he turned the fan off, it goes back to normal. I asked him what the top lever on the A/C control is set to and he had it set to "Vent". I told him to switch it from "Vent" to "Fresh" and it also stopped. My question is.. is the A/C engaged when "Vent" is selected and not engaged when "Fresh" is selected? I can't think of anything else that would make this stop by just switching the fan off or switching from vent to fresh. Let me know what you can come up with for ideas on what could be causing this.
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Thanks John... Sounds good.. Your build sounds similar to my original plan, which I intended to be fairly rock solid. I'd be more interested in the full detailed listing of what went into the engine. I do plan on doing some reinforcement since it already has the roll cage in it, and is gutted, I might as well. The top being off does reduce the structure stability, so I need to compensate for that
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Thanks! All good points but this car has no fuel lines, no gas tank, nothing except the stock cracked dash and the suspension and rearend.. Everything is completely gutted already, and I don't have it.. so I was planning on using a fuel cell and redoing it all anyway. I really like the idea of the EZ-EFI (TBI) system, but just noticed the Megasquirt 3 sequential injection stuff, and how easy it is to setup with the LS1. I initially leaned away from the LS1 because I didn't want to deal with $ injectors and all of the sensors needed. It's still a toss-up at this point, but the engine is a far way off anyway.. Have plenty of body work and enforcement to do before I should even be thinking about it. Just letting my thoughts run into the forum
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So.. I am thinking of downgrading the engine aspect of the build to a used stock LS1 w/ megasquirt 3 .. and go from there if I want more power, it's easy enough to add... Should make it easier on me, and provide a cheaper engine build. If my aim is 12-13 1/4 miles, I have a feeling the stock LS1 can get pretty close, or be nudged there with a little help. What do y'all think?
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Got it on the pistons.. I'm not opposed to change.. Thanks for the rest of the info also.. I'm saving this all elsewhere for some day when I actually do build the engine. I am attached to this Z.. I definitely want a roadster.. topless Z.. so I'll beef up the stiffness as much as I can. I've seen a couple of other convertible and roadster Z's out there that handle more horsepower than I will be putting out. If a vette, viper, cobra, etc can run the drag topless (and they do.. I see it almost every week) , then I think it is safe to say that you can put enough structural integrity into the rest of the body to be able to handle it. If I do end up twisting the body or doing some major damage, then I figure I can always go grab another 240z -- they are fairly easy to find rust-free and in decent condition here in Arizona... apart from the body work, paint, and reinforcements.. the rest of the parts bolt on.. I've seen somebody swap the engine, drivetrain, rearend from one 240z to another very quickly before I'm confident that I can reinforce the chassis decently. The roll cage that is already in the car is near identical to many of the cars that run the drag strip here locally. Most of those cars push upwards of 500hp and a good amount of them are unibody's .. Wish me luck and I'll do my best. Who knows.. maybe a 2nd 240z is in my future as well to compare it to I REALLY APPRECIATE the comments and suggestions.. This is what I am looking for, and what makes this forum great.
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Checked spam folders and everything.. I've noticed that watched topics that have immediate notification turned on are not working. I tried to look at my notifications and it says I have no notifications there either. Not sure what is up.. I've been a member for a long time, so maybe something didn't get updated on my account?
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It will be mostly street. I plan on driving it most days. Welding the cage in/through the doors would be interesting. I may have to remove these hollow fiberglass (yeah.. about 5 - 9 lbs each) doors and find some stock doors to place on them. Not sure if the stock ones will even bolt up any longer, but I'll have to check sometime. The idea of welding the stock doors is interesting also, but then I'd have to have a ladder for my wife to be able to get in.. probably not going to happen. Bracing through firewall and front frame rails I am all for. The cage is already welded to the rear shock towers, but I plan on adding a strut bar in the front / back both to further increase the rigidity. I am planning on replacing the floorboards and frame rails. I didn't want to make it look like I was jumping head first into this, but I did want to write it all out and plan it all out so I knew for myself what I was going to do, when I was going to do it, etc.. and to get your very valuable advice about it all. Thanks a ton! Keep it coming.
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This Z is very rust free... minus some on the floor plans. I bought it because I actually wanted a convertible eventually -- so I think it fits my plans well. I can add stiffness to the body (or have somebody that has experience do it). My #1 priority on this build is to make sure the unibody is reinforced as much as possible and that bracing is installed wherever we can. Your engine recommendations are actually very close to what I had planned: GM 4 bolt 350 block machined to 383 (possibly splayed.. is it necessary for this HP level?) AFR 180 or 195 street eliminator heads Victor Reinz head gaskets Lunati Voodoo 60103 Cams Lunati Voodoo Aluminum Roller Rockers SCAT Pro Comp I-Beam Rods ARP Wave-Loc Rod Bolt Kit SCAT 9000 Pro Comp Stoker Crank Hypereutectic Pistons (Speed Pro or Keith Black?) Melling High Volume Oil Pump Cloyes true roller timing kit Clevite H-series Main and Rod Bearings Comp Cams Magnum Push Rods Thanks for the suggestions and your input. It's very helpful!
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I'm not planning on using it on a track. Maybe the drag strip, but definitely not the track. I was just saying the person I bought it from had planned to use it on his local track. Engine, Differential, and Transmission I figured would cost between $5k and $8k depending on if I built it or had someone else do the work.. and all those small things in between I'm not going to use cheap parts.. want it to last a while
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Hey guys.. finally getting around to working on my project car (pics attached). I think I paid about $500 (or less) for the '73 240z , so I figure it was a decent deal. Basically the car was going to be used for a track setup by the previous owner. I'm not sure where he was going with the convertible top, but I do like the bodywork, although it needs some repairing from fiberglass cracking, etc from being exposed to the Arizona sun for an extended period of time. My overall plans: I would like the car to run a 12-13 second 1/4 mile when I do decide to drag it. I don't want anything to break or twist. I'm willing to put a few extra dollars into it to ensure that it does not have issues in the future. Engine plans: ~440hp SBC 383 w/ JCI v8z kit - engine custom built by myself or my dad, or built my a competent engine builder. I'm planning on throwing a FAST EZ-EFI system (TBI) on it for fuel. I've considered a complete MPFI system, but it does complicate things and I've heard nothing but great things about the (quick) auto learning EZ-EFI setup. Drivetrain plans: Built up 700R4 and a R200 Viscous LSD (Q45 3.54 ?) Drivetrain / Suspension / brake plans: Option #1 - Arizona Z Car Track-Pak (Front/Rear -- 7600 $$ wow) , Option #2 - Modern Motorsports Rear Adj Control Arms, Modern Motorsports R200 Mounting Package , Modern Motorsports Front/Rear 13" Brake Package , Option #3 - Techo Toy Tuning R200 Rear End Conversion Kit (http://www.technotoy...0-rear-end.html) I would like your opinions on the above choices.. what would be best and easiest to implement. I would like to do much of the work myself, so the simpler for me, the better. I really like the Arizona Z Car Track-Pak, but it's friggin expensive. So.. after that is all out of the way.. I need to know how to proceed with this car. My first though was to take it down somewhere and have it soda blasted (so it doesn't harm any existing fiberglass). I'd like to know what I am working with before I begin my first attempt at fiberglass repair and fabrication. Is this what you would do first? I was planning on the following "order" for completing the car: 1. Remove dash and have someone soda blast everything we can 2. Repair any fiberglass that has cracks, needs filling in, fabrication for tail light installation 3. Primer it before anything starts rusting 4. Replace frame rails and floor boards 5. Primer floor boards -- Spray or Brush truck bedliner in engine bay and cabin floor of vehicle [edit] 5a. - Reinforce chassis to prevent flexing or have someone else with 240z experience do it (Phoenix area has someone good). 6. Remove old rearend and install new rearend, suspension, and brake components 7. Replace front control arms, suspension, and brake components 8. Install transmission, driveline, and mounting components 9. Ensure steering components are bolted up and functional 10. Install engine and mounting components 11. Install headers and have an exhaust shop install the exhaust 12. Hook up heater components 13. Install new fiberglass + coated dash + gauges Let me know how that looks, and if I am missing anything important. I want this done right the first time Sorry for the lengthy post and might be over-thinking it, but I like being prepared and know what I am in for. Thanks guys!
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Planning 383 240z - Help me plan!
PhaTTy replied to PhaTTy's topic in Gen III & IV Chevy V8Z Tech Board
I plan on insuring it with collector insurance, which would allow me to bypass emissions in my city. "Arizona now has an emissions testing exemption for cars 25 years old or older that have collector car insurance on them." Sounds like it would work to me, as long as I can get collector car insurance on the ole 240z project. I've been pondering over different 383 options, and my real question is.. how "daily" street friendly will the car be at different horsepower levels. I plan to put the 700R4 transmission in, and a R200/R230 VLSD. Chassis will be strengthened as much as I can. I don't want to overdo the power... Since I am planning a N/A engine build, what are your thoughts on a 400hp/400tq (crank) engine vs 500hp/500tq (crank) engine build. I am planning on around 9.2 - 9.6 CR to prevent knock as we only have 91 octane here. It will be a bit more under control with the FAST EZ-EFI since it will train itself to obtain a proper AFR ratio, which can help reduce knock over a carb setup. I want a fun car that I can drive every day if I want to and take to the strip a few times a year. However, I don't think it is worth the effort if the car won't run at least a 12.5 1/4 mile. Let me know your thoughts on all this -
Planning 383 240z - Help me plan!
PhaTTy replied to PhaTTy's topic in Gen III & IV Chevy V8Z Tech Board
Those were just goals.. I'm not going to be disappointed with a ~12.. And then again, if I run 11's I would be overjoyed.. I'm doing it for fun, not competition. Hrm... Now you've got me thinking about grabbing a block and building up an engine with my father.. Good bonding time, eh .. I like the idea of the Lunati Voodoo cam and you seem to be pleased with it. I've heard from a couple of sources that the sanderson headers fit in a sbc v8 swap, so will have to check that out also Awesome.. If it were not for you guys, I'd be lost. I know this is going to be a drawn out project, but having some help is always nice. -
Planning 383 240z - Help me plan!
PhaTTy replied to PhaTTy's topic in Gen III & IV Chevy V8Z Tech Board
I've ridden in a fairly quick car.. It was heavier but was an El Camino pushing 600-800hp depending on boost.. Enough to scare me, but it was fun once I got past the initial shock. I don't plan on running nitrous at all, I am looking for just all motor. I would be plenty happy with a 12.2 1/4 mile. Wasn't planning on having the shop send me a crate, but work with them to create what I needed, or build it with my dad, who has experience. Do you have any idea what type of build that 383 was that you ran a 12.2 on? I'm thinking 443hp in a 240z (lighter than stock even) would be a lot of power for that car... Don't want to overdo it.. Good comments.. This is what I was looking for. -
Planning 383 240z - Help me plan!
PhaTTy replied to PhaTTy's topic in Gen III & IV Chevy V8Z Tech Board
Those were my thoughts exactly.. I'd love to get just around 500hp without having to supercharge or turbo the engine... I noticed the same engine builder has (http://www.tuffdawgengines.com/chev_383_500hp.htm) .. I could probably work with them to create a reliable SBC that runs on pump gas. All the engines they list, they claim run fine on 91 octane. Just FYI - I am heading up this weekend to look at a '73 240z with a complete fiberglass molded one piece tilt front-end (-weight, +easy engine bay access).. It also has fiberglass doors (-weight), and made convertible (-weight), which I will have to get a hard top for. I'm thinking with the reduced weight on the front, having a non-aluminum block will even the weight ratio out pretty nice.. I'm guessing 450-500hp in this will be enough to scare the living daylights out of a passenger, and pull some decent 1/4 times as well. What do you think? I'd love to strap a turbo or charger on, but it does add cost, time, fabrication, and more parts that can fail.. I know the cool factor is definitely there, but not sure if I want the extra complications. -
Planning 383 240z - Help me plan!
PhaTTy replied to PhaTTy's topic in Gen III & IV Chevy V8Z Tech Board
I keep reading more and more great reviews of the FAST EZ-EFI system which will bolt onto a square flange carburetor manifold. $1900 for a tried-and-true automatically tuning and automatically adjusting EFI system is really hard to beat I'm really leaning towards ditching the GM EFI and going with that, purely for cost if I don't get a turn-key engine. Because of the large difference in cost, I am considering just getting a built 383 from a builder in Phoenix (only 100 miles away from me). The engine I am looking at is here: http://www.tuffdawgengines.com/chev_383_443hp.htm and its $3500 shipped to my door. I plan on sticking the FAST EZ-EFI system on it, for $1900, and I'd need to grab a MSD 6AL kit (85551K) to run ignition for it, and some components Going with that engine would probably save me some $ and I think I would be happy with it. It will be a while before I need to even make an engine choice, so I'm sure I will brainstorm more before then.. Your thoughts? -
Planning 383 240z - Help me plan!
PhaTTy replied to PhaTTy's topic in Gen III & IV Chevy V8Z Tech Board
Now I am considering what engine to get.. a LS3 is hard to source, and the stock ECM is going to be more problematic to mod (if it needs programming). I know a lot of people do the LS1... I just wanted to be different. My biggest fear is having an aluminum block that won't withstand 550hp without a hitch.. I don't plan to make 550hp, but I want the peace of mind knowing that the engine is more than capable of what it does produce. I've also considered the Wolf V500 ECU for use on the LS1/LS6 or LS3. I'd love to hear your opinions on engine options. I don't mind doing the FAST EZ-EFI system either.. Also considered grabbing an LS block and working from there, but it would be more $ than just buying one pre-stroked by someone competent I think. Lots of ideas running around in my head.. You guys are here to help me get them straight. -
Planning 383 240z - Help me plan!
PhaTTy replied to PhaTTy's topic in Gen III & IV Chevy V8Z Tech Board
According to GM, adding on a cam & intake added 125hp to the stock LS3 engine.. they claim that is all that was done to the LS376/515... weird. -
Planning 383 240z - Help me plan!
PhaTTy replied to PhaTTy's topic in Gen III & IV Chevy V8Z Tech Board
flatback280 -- I don't know what I was thinking when I picked out the LS376/515 from GM.. It's just a stock LS3 w/ cam and carb manifold.. I like the idea of finding (somehow) a used LS3 from a wrecked car.. Using the stock PCM is good too.. With EFILive ($800) I would be left with full sequential tuneable injection system, and would have something similar to easy-tune with EFILive if I buy a $600 (+$200 license) RoadRunner RealTime ECM (which probably does not work as an LS3 ECM, but may..). This stock easy-tunable EFI setup combined would be $1600, and I can get the EZ-EFI for $2250 complete with supporting fuel system (but would need the ~$400 carb manifold.. so $2650 for EZ-EFI vs $1600 for stock ECM w/ tuning). If I liked the power of a stock LS3, great.. If not, I could always throw in a cam and up the power a bit.. Thanks for the money-saving used LS3 idea.. just don't know how hard it will be to find one -
What started off as an LS3 build is going to become a 383 build to decrease cost and simplify things. Ok Guys.. It's been a long time since I've set foot in the HybridZ forums, but I am ambitious now and want my own Hybrid Z! This will be a Fun Driver (not daily driver, but could be if needed).. I am aiming for 10-11s 1/4 mile times when I decide to take it to the strip on occasion. Items to be completed, in order of importance: Obtain a 240z with minimal rust (Hopefully not hard in Arizona/California) Have 240z's chassis majorly strengthened to withstand power Gut and bedliner the interior Build Plans: JCI (John's Cars) V8 Conversion Kit - (may not need entire kit since using GM sensors) T700 Driveshaft from JCI - $165 Driveshaft Adapter from JCI - $100 Torque Converter Lockup (Electrolock) from JCI - $85 High Performance 700R4 Transmission/Converter from Monster Transmission ($2000) R200/R230 VLSD Swap --- OLD IDEA -- GM Performance LS376/515 (515hp/469tq) Engine ($7100) GM Performance 19171130 LSX Ignition Control (programmable ignition!) ($350) F.A.S.T. EZ-EFI Kit w/ Complete Fuel System (up to 550hp) - $1900 -- OLD IDEA -- -- OLD IDEA -- Chevy LS3 Engine from wrecked vehicle Fuel System good up to 550hp - $345 -- OLD IDEA -- -- NEW IDEA -- 383 w/ 443hp engine - http://www.tuffdawgengines.com/chev_383_443hp.htm (local builder) - $3500 to my door F.A.S.T. EZ-EFI Kit for running fuel w/ Complete Fuel System (up to 550hp) - $1900 MSD 6AL kit (85551K) to run ignition - $500 -- NEW IDEA -- Aluminum 4-row radiator from Ledfoot Racing or JTR - $280 16" Black Magic Xtreme cooling fan (3,300cfm) , or dual 12" 1400cfm Fuel Cell of course Dual 2.5" Exhaust w/ x-pipe Larger front brakes I've heard nothing but amazing reviews on the EZ-EFI system (especially the self-tune). My initial (expensive/insane) idea was to put in the C4 Corvette IRS w/ coilovers but I don't think that would be necessary for occasional dragging, and I am not planning to take it to a circle track. Main questions: - Is this too much power in a Z (my thought.. no.. just beef up the chassis/rearend) - Am I insane? - Does anyone else have a similar setup, and have some 1/4 mile times - Is the F.A.S.T. EZ-EFI Kit a great idea - How difficult is it to swap in the R200/R230 VLSD and which do you recommend, or do you recommend something else. I am ready for your feedback and thoughts. This is my first draft, so I am up to suggestions and flaming. Thanks guys, Aaron
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Yeah.. goto Napa and get a victor reinz gasket.. You can google it and find out that several top speed dragsters running insane amounts of boost are very satisfied with the victor reinz(sp?) gasket. And best of all, its affordable. Hope that helps.
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Thanks for the info 240hoke and the rest. I will try to reach him @ work. Does anyone have any more numbers or ways to reach him?
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I am trying desperately to get in touch with Alex Costa. He has a good amount of my money which was to be used to build up an engine. All of a sudden he just disappeared. I am trying to get ahold of him to either get my parts or my money back before I am forced to contact authorities on wire fraud charges. If anyone has any information, please PM me or reply to this message. Aaron
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White smoke from valve breather?
PhaTTy replied to PhaTTy's topic in Trouble Shooting / General Engine
OK.. was just a bit worried since it did it when it was cold as well. It actually seems to do it less once it is warm. Just worried since I have to take it on a 900-mile road trip in 2 days -
OK.. for some reason on acceleration or under load, I have some nice white smoke coming out of my valve cover breather. Is this normal? I do not think it is because it just started doing it recently. Any ideas?