Hi guys,
I would like to get an airdam for my 1977 280Z. (Also, I plan on taking my bumpers off and replacing them with fiberglass 240 bumpers, eventually, but short term, I am just planning on taking off my valence pieces, that bar that goes behind the bumper that holds the mounts, and the bumper itself, and putting the airdam on.)
I like the way the xenon airdams looks, and when I've asked people what they had on their car, they've told me "the xenon airdam from MSA." So I'm thinking, ok, no problem, I just call MSA, tell them what I want to do, and get one that will work. They list two eurothane airdams for first gen Z cars, and it's hard to see much difference in the pictures, other than the fact that the models have their stock bumpers on. One is part 1411, listed for 70-74 years, and the other is 1412, listed for 75-78.
Unfortunately, when I talked to the guy on the phone, he starts insisiting that these things mount to the bumper itself, and that if you take the bumper off, it won't mount any more "without modification". I tried to ask him where it mounted, but I didn't get a clear answer. That didn't sound right to me at all, as I have seen a good many 280's without bumpers that have the xenon airdam on there, and they certainly don't look like they mount to the bumper. So he couldn't tell me whether I needed the 1411, or 1412 (because according to him, NEITHER would work.) From the tiny picture in the catalogue, there is no way to tell if the 75-78 (1412) has some kind of cutaway for the larger bumper or the mount behind it that I wouldn't want, and clearly someone who is telling me that it mounts to the bumper itself won't be able to help me.
So, my questions are:
1) Don't the airdams mount where the left and right valence pieces currently mount, or am I going insane, or both?
2) Will either airdam mount to my car, (without bumpers), ie, is there any difference at all in where the two airdams mount, and any difference as to where they can mount between the 70-74 and 75-78 Z's?
3) Does the 75-78 xenon airdam they list have a cutaway for the larger bumper, or places to mount to the bumper support (which I need to take off) on the 77? (because in this case I wouldn't want it)
4) Has anyone in my situation ordered from MSA and can tell me exactly which part number I need?
Sorry if this is a little jumbled, I just couldn't believe what I was hearing on the phone, and I'm little frustrated. I wanted to have it ordered by now, dang it. Assuming I'm not out of my mind, and the guy was completely wrong, their people are actively driving away business with ignorance.
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-Forrest