abc_was_here Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 So long story short, ran into a bunch of problems that probably at this point now had nothing to do with the dizzy. Anyway computer went out and got another one, I had already gotten a reman dizzy. Finally got the car to start now I cant get the timing past 2deg of advance. I can retard it out the wazoo. But all the way turned for advance it will only go to 2deg. Does anyone had any similar problems? or ways to fix this. The dizzy pretty much cant go in upside down as the wires for the cas would be out wack. The other thing I noticed today is that it seems the alternator might not be working correctly. However these dont have any thing in common correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zx_drift Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 If you can't get the dizzy to advance enough, you might have the drive gear off a tooth or something. Did you take out the oil pump? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyro Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 or maybe the wires are off one position around the cap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abc_was_here Posted August 28, 2011 Author Share Posted August 28, 2011 No I never touched the pump just changed out the dizzys, and the wires around the cap? I don't believe those can go together wrong.. I will check when I get home though.. This is really frustrating problem to have, I'm going to see if I can get my core back and see if I can get it tto work.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beermanpete Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 On the early models there are 2 adjustment slots. Only 1 is easily accessible for normal adjustments. To access the other you need to remove the distibutor to get to it. Assuming yours has both adjustments, have you used both of these to get the full range of adjustment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abc_was_here Posted August 28, 2011 Author Share Posted August 28, 2011 No I have not used both of the adjustments, in fact I didnt even know they were two adjustments. Ive pulled the dizzy off four different times so I have no problem pulling it off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beermanpete Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 (edited) EE Engine Electrical page 29.pdf Here is the illustration from the '79 service manual showing the 2 adjustment slots. Look at item 16, fixing plate. You can loosen the screw that holds this plate to the distributor and turn it a bit. Edited August 28, 2011 by beermanpete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abc_was_here Posted August 28, 2011 Author Share Posted August 28, 2011 Thanks I guess I should have known that only pertained to an NA Dizzy; the turbo one is fixed and does not move like that. Thank you. Problem still persists... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abc_was_here Posted August 29, 2011 Author Share Posted August 29, 2011 No one else has any other ideas? I'm resorting to exchanging this dizzy out again, now another ten days til I get this back.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xnke Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 How about you pull the dizzy and set the engine to top dead center, and check the shaft timing? I would bet it's a tooth off. I just fought this exact same problem, and that's what was wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewZed Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 (edited) Edit - did some more reading and see that rotating the distributor is the proper way to set timing for the distributor mounted CAS. The FSM is pretty useless for any details of setting timing via adjusting the CAS, with the ECCS system. Good luck. Edited August 30, 2011 by NewZed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abc_was_here Posted August 30, 2011 Author Share Posted August 30, 2011 I never pulled the oil pump or anything out though? Just swapped dizzy's. I do not know how it could be off a tooth... Unless its like that on the dizzy? Ya I searched the FSM for while on how to time it but couldnt really find anything useful.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abc_was_here Posted September 2, 2011 Author Share Posted September 2, 2011 Well I guess can put a rest to this. The distributor I bought turned out to be fault, exchanged it for another one and now the timing is spot on. Thanks for everyones suggestions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSM Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 I'd be curious to know what was wrong with the old one. Was it a reman? If so, maybe they (assembler) put the chopper wheel in upside down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abc_was_here Posted September 2, 2011 Author Share Posted September 2, 2011 Yes it was a reman, that's all that I can figure for it to act the way it did. The guys at the parts store thought I was crazy.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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