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Here's the numbers. The tuner: Lane Culvard of Huntsville, AL (he does the tuning for HinsonSupercars) thinks somebody already worked on my computer because it was so good right out of the box. I had previously sent computer to waitformeperformance.com for a flash, but when I first built my car Lane said they had failed to remove the security system, so I kind of wrote them off. Maybe they were ok after all. Anyway, my baseline was 401hp at 5600 and 428 tq at 4200. I asked Lane to try to make the motor engine brake better for autocross and he said that would cost me some hp and he warned me that the numbers on a hot engine are often down a few hp over a cool motor since it was the second pull. He did something to the idle airflow tables (whatever that is) and said the engine was a little too fat on the top end. We left the upper rpm limiter at 6700 and he advised me to have the shifts done by about 6200-6300. Final numbers were 398 hp at 5450 and 435 tq at 4150. This was all on a Dynocom dyno. His printer is broken so I will post cell phone pics of the charts and graphs and a very noisy but not terribly informative video tonight. So what's next. Just gonna try to keep it together doing repairs as needed thru the summer and try to become a better driver in both drag and autocross. Next autocross is May 18. I'm joining cobramatt in Atlanta on June 1 for a day of road course one-on-one instruction. This winter is gonna be all about chassis trying to get the car safety certified to 135 rules in the 1/4-mile. Who knows, maybe ill fix my doors, heater, wipers and get the speedo working. Maybe the year after I will have enough money saved for cam/intake/nitrous all in one fell swoop. For now, I just want to change tires regularly. I'm pretty happy with the car as it sits.

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Lane said an intake was worth 15hp, a cam 50, nitrous 125. At what point would I be spending more time replacing axles than driving? If you watch my videos, I'm chirping the slicks with each shift. Gotta stop that, perhaps reducing my clutch pedal height a bit will help since the disc has broken in.

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I think a reliable car is worth a lot.  The love / hate thing with my projects seems to accure enough with redo's and unexplained glitches.  And if good choices still allude I could always count on my ex to give me the answer I didn't want to hear!

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I want to graduate from TnT to actual racing, but I'm afraid the car will never be competitive bracket racing and I want to race all night if going to the trouble (and catch the grief from home) of loading up and going to the track. I think I can work my way into the Grudge Racing scene which has 6.0, 7.0, and 8.0 classes. I should be competitive in the 7.0 class, especially when air temps climb. I guess it is sort of a bastardized form of bracket racing. Evidently you still lose if you breakout, so I should still practice as if bracket racing. I may still throw some money at bracket racing knowing that I will probably only get one run after qualifying. Qualification lasted 5 hours this Saturday.

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Lane's shop is on a long gravel driveway so I didn't do a test drive. Just got car off trailer at home and did a test drive here. The engine braking is better but not dramatically so. The rpm falls, but there is a delay of about a second whereas it used to take several seconds. . According to the guy giving me autocross pointers: that's not quick enough to cause the kind of weight transfer i need without hitting the brakes. The whole idea is to make the car super sensitive to throttle lift oversteer in order to help with turn-in.  With the car orignially, after lifting the throttle, the car slowly lost rpm to idle over several seconds.  I want the car to immediately drop to idle.   I need to call Lane tomorrow to see if that can be further tuned. Hope it doesn't cost me another $300.

 

In the video, I see a little puff of smoke under the car toward the end of the dyno run.  I'm not sure if the wind in the dyno shop is blowing a little tire smoke forward or if the driveshaft u-joint has slung a little grease onto the exhaust.  After car was shut down, no source of the smoke was found.

 

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I'm sure your method has more merit than our primitive, Idea of the moment . My friends car was a stock 74 camaro automatic, and tended to snowplow in the tight corners so a quick momentary back brake lock would pitch the rear around . What was funny was it actually worked well enough to take a 2nd place in a open class of cars we should of got stomped on.     I would say no great feat thou considering in the 80s the club she belonged to was more of a social casual event, not hard core racing.

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Thanks m1noel!  You were my first really helpful "mentor" for the project, remember way back when?  This motor does have an underdrive pulley, plus no cats, minimal exhaust, no A/C, no P/S.  Still has the same junkyard sparkplugs.  I really expected the drivetrain to eat up more power.  Do you have the same issue that I do about throttle run-on?  I wonder if it is a DBW thing?

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Engine braking should not be difficult to tune-in, and should not change WOT power output. I bet if they retarded your spark timing at very high vacuum and high rpm, you'll get all the engine braking you need.

 

I would clarify with the tuner exactly how they're trying to tune-in engine braking...

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Thanks, Leon.  Unfortunately the tuner is 2 hours away and he can't hear his work phone when he is dynoing a car.  Now answer machine.  I just have to sort of keep trying.  I did get in touch with one of his hired men and he said my request didn't seem like it should be a problem.  There is an autocross 20 minutes from where his shop is this Saturday.  I'm gonna try to drive bribe the officials to let me drive the first session, work a little, then go visit the tuner across the second half of the second session and across lunch.  Then maybe I can drive in the second afternoon session.  I hope they are cool and don't treat me like a free-loader.  I always wait to load my car until after I have picked up cones at the end of the day.

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I dunno. I think he is kind of stealth on his craft. For example, we talked a little about cams and who's cam he likes. He says he gets everything done custom from a cam grinder and wouldn't discuss any specs. He said he could save me a lot of money that way. If I ever do a cam, I'm gonna do something pretty aggressive rather than fooling around with something mild. Perhaps he will be different when I schedule an appointment and have cash in hand.

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I dunno. I think he is kind of stealth on his craft. For example, we talked a little about cams and who's cam he likes. He says he gets everything done custom from a cam grinder and wouldn't discuss any specs. He said he could save me a lot of money that way. If I ever do a cam, I'm gonna do something pretty aggressive rather than fooling around with something mild. Perhaps he will be different when I schedule an appointment and have cash in hand.

 

Run away. I have no time for people that secretive that I'm spending money with.  Its not a goddamn pro stock drag car.

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