G-E Posted April 12, 2014 Author Share Posted April 12, 2014 The point at which you change from gaining neg camber to gaining positive camber is when the control arm passes 90 degrees in relation to the STRUT TUBE, not the ground. Lots of people think that once the control arm passes horizontal to the ground then the strut loses neg camber. Not true. It would be difficult to run a car low enough to run into a situation where the car gains pos camber in bump. We have a really really good thread here that plots out camber curves, etc here: http://forums.hybridz.org/topic/63492-suspension-tech-motion-ratio-unsprung-weight/ The camber gain is very linear throughout Dan's (74_5.0L_Z) range of motion, and he has an extremely low autox Z car. The curve to that 90 degree mark is different on an offset strut though, which is what I'm working on... Good link ! Just to give you an idea what the adapters could be capable of, though the final version may vary, camber adjusted at the wheel only: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-E Posted April 12, 2014 Author Share Posted April 12, 2014 Does anyone have any spare s30 front and rear struts to hack up? I could use some measurements about inner diameters, depths, wall thickness etc.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnc Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 And you need camber gain because of the loss of camber in roll. Even if you set the camber angle at the spindle you will lose camber as the car rolls into a turn. I think your idea is good but not exactly for the reasons you're stating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-E Posted April 13, 2014 Author Share Posted April 13, 2014 And you need camber gain because of the loss of camber in roll. Even if you set the camber angle at the spindle you will lose camber as the car rolls into a turn. I think your idea is good but not exactly for the reasons you're stating. You're right, this is one of those mods where the results would be a complicated mix of side effects, the key will be to mitigate any of the unwanted ones, while gaining other beneficial ones... and as proven by the z31 community, tough to visualize for many Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xylemer Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 I can't contribute much in the way of suspension design, but I love seeing people break the mold and think outside of the box... consider me subscribed. Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnc Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 This is all well within the box. A 40+ year old box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-E Posted April 18, 2014 Author Share Posted April 18, 2014 This is all well within the box. A 40+ year old box. Haha... I'm gonna see about dropping by whitehead today, see if they have any leftovers to play with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raven12 Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Would there be any use for this in the front? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-E Posted April 29, 2014 Author Share Posted April 29, 2014 There could be yes, I just expect the rear is a bigger priority, the gains are greater... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-E Posted August 16, 2014 Author Share Posted August 16, 2014 So the only redesign I need to make to my adapters is a longer base, and a very slight bump in diameter to be tighter to the tube wall.. Parts used: 240z '73 rear strut, my z31-s13 coilover adapter, and stance s13 coilover bracket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatwad Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 You can come to Vegas and fit the coilovers on my 280z it's just sitting there for now lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatwad Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 You can come to Vegas and fit the coilovers on my 280z it's just sitting there for now lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-E Posted August 16, 2014 Author Share Posted August 16, 2014 Those will need to be measured... if someone has a set they can sacrifice to the god of prototyping? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-E Posted August 20, 2014 Author Share Posted August 20, 2014 Ok so I have 3 potential designs for this: 1. weld-in 2. bolt-on steel 3. bolt-on aluminum.... Who would be ready to buy in...... and who's interested in which option? G'ready. G'set. GOOOoooo.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-E Posted August 21, 2014 Author Share Posted August 21, 2014 Ok I'll randomly select aluminum bolt-on Sneak peek: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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