Dat73z Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 Great information here. I used to run a lot of FEA a couple of years back (solidworks, catia, etc.). Just out of curiosity since it's hard to make out in the pics above with the white on white and exposure...but how are the joints mounted above? Are they welded on? Do you have any better pictures? I see the hood latch is gone. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dat73z Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 Maybe a double post but meant to say the bracketry for the heim joints. Sorry it's a bit late, haven't figured out how to edit posts, and was impressed by the setup! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hypertek Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 There will always be guys who swear bolt-ons don't do much compared to custom fabricated/welded on parts. Of course if you are looking for serious performance on a production car, you are going to want to fabricate/weld stuff and go all out track car . But for a moderate street/light track car, bolt-on should be improvement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryant67 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 ^ Very nice, it fits! Did you get the longer bars? I still haven't gotten around to test-fitting the replacements T3 sent me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob L Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 So are these good or bad ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RebekahsZ Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 These all look great, but I guess ya better pair them with some TTT adjustable LCAs if you wanna increase negative camber as needed to actually make a Z corner. My car pushed like a mother till I got camber plates. Pushed with and without a strut brace. If you look at johnc's picture, I think he has busquit style bolt in camber plates to get his camber. That's a quick and easy way to get it done. But, I don't know if losing one of three bolts per side of the strut bar would render it too flexible (?). Just try to think about what your next modification might be before you start laying down time and money. I personally do a lot of "one-step-forward/two-steps-back" spending. This part kinda looks like an opportunity to do some of that. But it does look cool, can't argue that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreco Posted June 24, 2015 Author Share Posted June 24, 2015 These all look great, but I guess ya better pair them with some TTT adjustable LCAs if you wanna increase negative camber as needed to actually make a Z corner. My car pushed like a mother till I got camber plates. Pushed with and without a strut brace. If you look at johnc's picture, I think he has busquit style bolt in camber plates to get his camber. That's a quick and easy way to get it done. But, I don't know if losing one of three bolts per side of the strut bar would render it too flexible (?). Just try to think about what your next modification might be before you start laying down time and money. I personally do a lot of "one-step-forward/two-steps-back" spending. This part kinda looks like an opportunity to do some of that. But it does look cool, can't argue that. I'm running the BC bolt in coilovers with stock control arms and the adjustable control arm bushing. Running -2 degrees of negative camber in front and -1.5 in the rear. Plenty of oversteer. (275 tires, square set up) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RebekahsZ Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 (edited) So the brace fits with the BC camber plates? I just went back to your OP and super zoomed in-i can see your adjusters are eccentric. Good to know! Man, your car is NICE! Edited June 26, 2015 by RebekahsZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreco Posted June 26, 2015 Author Share Posted June 26, 2015 So the brace fits with the BC camber plates? I just went back to your OP and super zoomed in-i can see your adjusters are eccentric. Good to know! Man, your car is NICE! thanks!.. yes, I have the bolt in plates. I ground out the top hole a bit for more travel inward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnc Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 There are more fab pics of the STBs on my old race car in my Gallery. Basically it's .083" 4130 sheet welded to the chassis and tabs welded to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1vicissitude Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 (edited) I'm really liking the combo with the Cusco bar visually. I'm curious which is more rigid, the flat Cusco with its two bends or the straight round t3 bar... my assumption is the straight t3 bar. I really like this design. I think the tabs are welded to a more rigid part of the firewall. http://www.bryanf.com/240Z/images/Engine-Left-Side.jpg Edited June 28, 2015 by 1vicissitude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z-ya Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 What I've done is similar to what John mentioned. If you look inside where the wiper motor is, you will see that there is an area on the firewall where the "floor" under the wiper motor, and vertical braces all meet. I welded in 3/16" plate over that area that ties all of that together. Then I welded tabs to the plate. The strut bars will have clevis ends that will attach to the tabs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnc Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 The center section of the firewall where the hood latch is is the strongest part. If, as mentioned above, you span the entire cowl box with a plate on the firewall you will have a pretty solid mount. I added a couple pics in my previous post and you can see the line of spot welds that defines the bottom of the cowl box. Add a plate the goes from there all the way to the top of the cowl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hypertek Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 Will their rear add on piece fit the rear cusco bar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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