JeffO2 Posted May 1, 2003 Share Posted May 1, 2003 i did some calling around today and here's what i came up with so far: Pauter - Don 619-422-5384 6-8 wks - $180 each Crower - Brian 619-422-1191 8 weeks - $177 each Cunningham - Greg 310-538-0605 8-10 weeks - $180 each and TopEndPerformance distributes Pauter rods but they dont carry them on the shelf. And they quoted me 2 weeks but i doubt that since i just spoke to Pauter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Baldwin Posted May 1, 2003 Share Posted May 1, 2003 Are these custom rods, or treated stock rods? How high will you be revving? Stock rods *can* be had for WELL under $100, if you have a sympathetic Nissan parts guy on your side. Probably good for 7250rpm or so as-is. Lead time maybe a week? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffO2 Posted May 1, 2003 Author Share Posted May 1, 2003 these are custom rods. im building a 3.0 stroker turbo. yes 3.0 and not the 3.1. the 3.1 uses an 89mm piston and a .120 overbore which i think is too much for a turbo engine with the excessive heat and all. im going with an 87mm piston with a .040 overbore. my builder recommended CP pistons b/c of their tighter tolerances. As for the rods the stock design is 30 years old and i figure with an engine producing in the 400-500hp range. yes...im almost tripling the horsepower of the stock rod. and consdering the amount of money involved for the build it makes sense to spend a little extra for custom rods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleeperZ Posted May 1, 2003 Share Posted May 1, 2003 these are custom rods. im building a 3.0 stroker turbo. yes 3.0 and not the 3.1. the 3.1 uses an 89mm piston and a .120 overbore which i think is too much for a turbo engine with the excessive heat and all. im going with an 87mm piston with a .040 overbore. my builder recommended CP pistons b/c of their tighter tolerances. As for the rods the stock design is 30 years old and i figure with an engine producing in the 400-500hp range. yes...im almost tripling the horsepower of the stock rod. and consdering the amount of money involved for the build it makes sense to spend a little extra for custom rods. So basically, you are using an 88mm piston? And factory rods with prep are reputed to handle 600hp (WAY overbuilt, just the way I like it), but I understand about the custom thing. Stroker turbo is very nice - good luck with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Baldwin Posted May 2, 2003 Share Posted May 2, 2003 Even at that hp level, rod life/reliability is really more a function of operational rpm levels. Ignition and fuel controls are WAY more advanced than they were 30 years ago. Suspension and engine mechanicals, not *as* much more advanced. That's what I have to explain to Z06, M3, etc. drivers that can't believe my dinosaur-age car was quicker than their latest/greatest tech gee-whiz-bang-mobile around the race track:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lockjaw Posted May 2, 2003 Share Posted May 2, 2003 Properly prepped stock rods are good to 600 hp. All you need to do is polish, shotpeen, bush for floaters, have the pin oiling hole(s) drilled and use ARP rod bolts. I did that with my engine and have had no trouble with rods. As long as you don't wind the engine to 8k or higher, you shouldn't need custom rods, and you would probably tear up the crank before the rods anyway. Good luck, but I would spend my money somewhere else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffO2 Posted May 2, 2003 Author Share Posted May 2, 2003 i broke down the costs for acquiring and prepping the stock rods. $100 for 6 rods ARP rod bolts - $50 (Top End Performance) My builder estimated 6 hours of labor @ $70 involved with prepping the rods and Top End Performance list said $450 for prep work. Shot Peen, Mag, Bush small ends for floaters, Re-Size big ends, Install ARP bolts. so total it would cost me $450 for 5 hours of labor, $50 for bolts, $100 for the rods. so it comes to around $600 for the stock rods anyway. Custom Rods cost another $500 so around $1100 total. And i got my set for $850 so it only cost me another $250. Just dont ask how i got rods for $850 a set. And regarding the "Good to 600hp no problem" i've seen this on Top End Performances webpage but can anyone validate this claim for 600hp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rags Posted May 2, 2003 Share Posted May 2, 2003 Hey Jeff, I'm gonna use the stockers for my stroker build so we'll see if they let go. By the way, how many of these are we gonna have running around in NJ, 3-4?! Is Chaz using custom rods or stockers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
280Zen Posted May 2, 2003 Share Posted May 2, 2003 I'm picking up a set of 240 9mm rods for $150 from a local guy! I think they even include the 240 pistons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAD D Posted May 2, 2003 Share Posted May 2, 2003 I would sell my stock 73 9mm 240 rods, If some one would like them. The motor and 5-speed are just sitting in my shop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rags Posted May 2, 2003 Share Posted May 2, 2003 What do you want for them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lockjaw Posted May 2, 2003 Share Posted May 2, 2003 You can polish them yourself, and you don't need to have them resized unless they are out of round, which is rare. You can also install the ARP bolts yourself. I used a dremel to polish mine, and used the sanding rolls, but ace hardware has larger sanding roles that will work in a drill, and that should speed up the process. It is not a bad job to do, really, and that ought to save you some money. Just a thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rags Posted May 2, 2003 Share Posted May 2, 2003 What do you want for them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAD D Posted May 2, 2003 Share Posted May 2, 2003 100$ shipped to your door? But I have to pull them out still. The motor was running strong before I pulled it out to do the RB26 swap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rags Posted May 2, 2003 Share Posted May 2, 2003 SOLD!! Take your time getting them out. I'll be doing the Disney thing with the family for the next week. Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAD D Posted May 2, 2003 Share Posted May 2, 2003 Thanks, I will pull them out soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAD D Posted May 2, 2003 Share Posted May 2, 2003 I sent you an e-mail with my address, what is yours? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffO2 Posted May 2, 2003 Author Share Posted May 2, 2003 no Chaz isnt going with the stroker. however, with the work he's doing he's expecting a 60hp increase. And i thought his 240z was already fast. i know he was doing a T3/T4 i think and the Perfect Power SMTP6 piggy back system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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