SleeperZ Posted August 9, 2003 Share Posted August 9, 2003 Let's just say I'm not a Rush fan, and leave it at that. I was amazed to get this in my email. This quote is attributed to Rush: Love him or loath him, he nailed this one right on the head............. By Rush Limbaugh: I think the vast differences in compensation between victims of the September 11 casualty and those who die serving the country in Uniform are profound. No one is really talking about it either, because you just don't criticize anything having to do with September 11. Well, I just can't let the numbers pass by because it says something really disturbing about the entitlement mentality of this country. If you lost a family member in the September 11 attack, you're going to get an average of $1,185,000. The range is a minimum guarantee of $250,000, all the way up to $4.7 million. If you are a surviving family member of an American soldier killed in action, the first check you get is a $6,000 direct death benefit, half of which is taxable. Next, you get $1,750 for burial costs. If you are the surviving spouse, you get $833 a month until you remarry. And there's a payment of $211 per month for each child under 18. When the child hits 18, those payments come to a screeching halt. Keep in mind that some of the people who are getting an average of $1.185 million up to $4.7 million are complaining that it's not enough. Their deaths were tragic, but for most, they were simply in the wrong place at the wrong time. Soldiers put themselves in harms way FOR ALL OF US, and they and their families know the dangers. We also learned over the weekend that some of the victims from the Oklahoma City bombing have started an organization asking for the same deal that the September 11 families are getting. In addition to that, some of the families of those bombed in the embassies are now asking for compensation as well. You see where this is going, don't you? Folks, this is part and parcel of over 50 years of entitlement politics in this country. It's just really sad. Every time a pay raise comes up for the military, they usually receive next to nothing of a raise. Now the green machine is in combat in the Middle East while their families have to survive on food stamps and live in low-rent housing. Make sense? However, our own U.S. Congress just voted themselves a raise, and many of you don't know that they only have to be in Congress one time to receive a pension that is more than $15,000 per month, and most are now equal to being millionaires plus. They also do not receive Social Security on retirement because they didn't have to pay into the system. If some of the military people stay in for 20 years and get out as an E-7, you may receive a pension of $1,000 per month, and the very people who placed you in harm's way receive a pension of $15,000 per month. I would like to see our elected officials pick up a weapon and join ranks before they start cutting out benefits and lowering pay for our sons and daughters who are now fighting. "When do we finally do something about this?" If this doesn't seem fair to you, it is time to forward this to as many people as you can.If your interested there is more....................... This must be a campaign issue in 2004. Keep it going. SOCIAL SECURITY: (This is worth the read. It's short and to the point.) Perhaps we are asking the wrong questions during election years. Our Senators and Congressmen do not pay into Social Security. Many years ago they voted in their own benefit plan. In more recent years, no congressperson has felt the need to change it. For all practical purposes their plan works like this: When they retire, they continue to draw the same pay until they die, except it may increase from time to time for cost of living adjustments. For example, former Senator Byrd and Congressman White and their wives may expect to draw $7,800,000 - that's Seven Million, Eight Hundred Thousand), with their wives drawing $275,000.00 during the last years of their lives. This is calculated on an average life span for each. Their cost for this excellent plan is $00.00. These little perks they voted for themselves is free to them. You and I pick up the tab for this plan. The funds for this fine retirement plan come directly from the General Fund--our tax dollars at work! >From our own Social Security Plan, which you and I pay (or have paid) into -- every payday until we retire (which amount is matched by our employer) --we can expect to get an average $1,000 per month after retirement. Or, in other words, we would have to collect our average of $1,000 monthly benefits for 68 years and one month to equal Senator Bill Bradley's benefits! Social Security could be very good if only one small change were made. And that change would be to jerk the Golden Fleece Retirement Plan from under the Senators and Congressmen. Put them into the Social Security plan with the rest of us and then watch how fast they would fix it. If enough people receive this, maybe a seed of awareness will be planted and maybe good changes will evolve. WE, each one of us... can make a difference.. How many people can YOU send this to? From the mouthes of babes, as they say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denny411 Posted August 9, 2003 Share Posted August 9, 2003 I`m NOT really sure what parts you disagree with? It seems absurd to me that a cashier at Wal Mart, could make more than some of our enlisted Men/Women that are risking their lives at this very moment. As far as cash payouts to the 9-11victims families... I think there SHOULD be a cap on death benefits to survivors. If someone like Bill Gaites from Microsoft had been killed in the attacks, WE(the taxpayers) would have payed his wife BILLIONS of dollars based on his lifetime projected earnings. Finally...Congress should recieve there raises and pensions based on evaluations and time in service. Just like the rest of us, and for every session that they are not present. Their pay should be docked. I don`t you about you, but If I don`t work. I don`t get paid I think MLK said it best, and it fits for all of my comments. "All people should be judged on the content of their character..." BTW, This thread should be deleted. This topic could be a very sore spot with many of us here, and could get out of hand quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nic-Rebel450CA Posted August 9, 2003 Share Posted August 9, 2003 BTW, This thread should be deleted. This topic could be a very sore spot with many of us here, and could get out of hand quickly. I second the notion. I am all for conversation, but I never mix politics with friends and fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKDGabe Posted August 9, 2003 Share Posted August 9, 2003 Guys, it's just not true. Some of it is... but the part about congressmen isn't. I searched very briefly and found this site: http://www.house.gov/stupak/conbenmyth_.htm and had a friend alert me to another site but I've forgotten what it was. Yes, there should be a cap on what people can receive! But please don't take every email on the internet for Gospel! Oh wait, I found evidence to the contrary on the internet and you're reading what I'm writing on the internet... ok, I'm confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BigWhyteDude Posted August 9, 2003 Share Posted August 9, 2003 i hate politicians. What is the old saying..."absolute power corupts absolutely" I see voteing as choosing to elect the lesser of two evils. Sometimes there isnt much difference. if it didnt cost so damned much to become president then........................ i would be president Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnc Posted August 9, 2003 Share Posted August 9, 2003 This e-mail has a kernel of truth, in the Rush has made that point on a number of his radio shows, but a lot has been added to the e-mail message from folks other then Rush. Here's the original: http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/outrage/military.htm This is also still a sensitive topic especially for those who lost family and friends on 9/11. I'm going to lock it at this point unless someone can make a good case for keeping it going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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