RickB Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 Is it hard to determine the correct pad for the Toyota calipers??? I am about due and not sure what to ask for at the local parts house? thanks again.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMortensen Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 Toyota went from solid rotors to vented in '86. If you've got solid rotors, get pads for an '83 Toy 4x4. For vented, get pads for a '93 and you should be fine. My understanding is that the size of the pistons was changed at least once after '86, but the pads are all the same. Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rags Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 Close but I had trouble with getting pads. From my observation this past weekend, all calipers from 79 to 87 toy 4x4's use the same pad regardless if the disks are vented or not. After 89 (88 is a gray area) the 4x4's switched to a larger caliper that required the use of a different pad. After three trips to the autoparts store yesterday, I finally got the pads for my early vented conversion. Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMortensen Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 Thanks Joe! I'll make a note of that. Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickB Posted October 6, 2003 Author Share Posted October 6, 2003 thanks guys...this should send me in the right direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomoHawk Posted November 29, 2003 Share Posted November 29, 2003 Can you use the Z pads temporarily? I have a new set that was never used. Also, is there a preferred model of 4x4 for the calipers? If you tell the JY guy toyota 4x4, they look at you funny- they want an exact model & year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waynekarnes Posted November 30, 2003 Share Posted November 30, 2003 Legal disclaimer-I am not responsible for injury or death by use of any parts listed. By installing any parts you are taking full responsibilty for any damage, death, or injury due to the use of these parts. Not legal at all, period. Not D.O.T. approved, period. Not to be used for Highway use in any state anywhere, period. Enjoy. Engine Pin height Piston diameter Dish cc Type Date LZ-22S 35.0 87 9.32 720 truck 6/79-10/82 LZ-22E 32.5 87 9.32 200SX 7/81-0/83 LZ-24 34.0 89 0 720 truck 11/82-10/85 KA-24E 34.0 89 0 240SX 89-98 Bump spacers: 3/4†for 14†wheels 1†for 15†wheels Large Four Piston Front Brakes with Vented Rotors 4 X 4 1/2†lugs: Port A Labeled as such only due to the fact that they use all stock Nissan and Toyota parts that can be adapted for use on the 1970-78 Z car. Major parts include: 1979-81 Nissan 280 ZX 15/16†master brake cylinder 1970-73 Nissan Z hubs 4 X 4 1/2†lug pattern 1984-85 Nissan 300ZX front rotors 4 X 4 1/16†bolt pattern 1988-92 Toyota 4X4 V6 pickup front calipers marked ‘S12W’ OR 1995-00 Toyota 4-Runner 4X4 V6 front calipers marked ‘S13WB’ Eight bolts grade 10.9, 8 X 1.25 thread diameter and pitch 40 mm long with lock washers Two metal spacer as listed below; O.D. 155 mm I.D. 81 mm Thickness 17 mm Four 10.5 mm holes spaced 4 1/16†equidistance The front dust shield must be trimmed to accommodate the larger caliper or they will rub and wheel clearance is an issue with older RWD wheels, the caliper has a protrusion of about 30 mm over stock using the ‘S12W’ version and 28 mm over stick using the ‘S13WB’ version. You can use your old brake lines if you gently bend them to fit, just make sure they don’t touch or they will rub a hole in the brake lines. Small Four Piston Front Brakes with Solid or Vented Rotors 4 X 4 1/2†lugs: Port B Labeled as such only due to the fact that they use all stock Nissan and Toyota parts that can be adapted for use on the 1970-78 Z car. Major parts include: 1979-81 Nissan 280 ZX 15/16†master brake cylinder 1970-78 Nissan Z hubs 4 X 4 1/2†lug pattern 1970-78 Nissan Z rotors 4 X 4 1/16†bolt pattern 1979-85 Toyota 4X4 4 cylinder pickup with solid rotor, front calipers marked ‘S12+8’ OR 1986-88 Toyota 4X4 4 cylinder pickup with vented rotor, front calipers marked ‘S12+8’ 1984-85 Nissan 300ZX front rotors 4 X 4 1/16†bolt pattern Eight bolts grade 10.9, 8 X 1.25 thread diameter and pitch 40 mm long with lock washers Two metal spacer as listed below; O.D. 155 mm I.D. 81 mm Thickness 17 mm Four 10.5 mm holes spaced 4 1/16†equidistance The front dust shield must be trimmed to accommodate the larger caliper or they will rub and wheel clearance is an issue with older RWD wheels, the caliper has a protrusion of about 8 mm over stock using the solid rotor version and 20 mm over stock using the vented rotor version. You can use your old brake lines if you gently bend them to fit, just make sure they don’t touch or they will rub a hole in the brake lines. Big Rear Disk Brake Conversion 240 SX 4 X 4 1/2†lugs: Port C Labeled as such only due to the fact that they use all stock Nissan parts that can be adapted for use on the 1970-78 Z car. Major parts include: 1979-81 Nissan 280 ZX 15/16†master brake cylinder 1989-98 Nissan 240 SX calipers and hangers 1984-85 Nissan 300 ZX rear rotors 4 X 4 1/2†lug pattern 1986-89 Nissan FWD Maxima rear dust shields and hub brackets both bored, cut, and welded for correct offset E-Brake extension are available after market and they can easily be fabricated. Rear axle must be removed to install the hub brackets. Small Rear Disk Brake Conversion 280 ZX 4 X 4 1/2†lugs: Port D Labeled as such only due to the fact that they use all stock Nissan parts that can be adapted for use on the 1970-78 Z car. Major parts include: 1979-81 Nissan 280 ZX 15/16†master brake cylinder 1982-83 Nissan 280 ZX rear caliper and hangers 1982-83 Nissan 280 ZX rear rotor 4 X 4 1/2†lug pattern 1986-89 Nissan FWD Maxima rear dust shields and hub brackets both bored, cut, and welded for correct offset OR 1980-84 Nissan 810 Nissan Maxima Sedan rear brackets that have the floating dust shield No E-Brake extension available after market but they can easily be fabricated. Rear axle must be removed to install the hub brackets. Big Rear Disk Brake Conversion 280 ZX 4 X 4 1/2†lugs: Port E Labeled as such only due to the fact that they use all stock Nissan parts that can be adapted for use on the 1970-78 Z car. Major parts include: 1979-81 Nissan 280 ZX 15/16†master brake cylinder 1982-83 Nissan 280 ZX calipers and hangers 1984-85 Nissan 300 ZX rear rotors 4 X 4 1/2†lug pattern 1986-89 Nissan FWD Maxima rear dust shields and hub brackets both bored, cut and welded for correct offset No E-Brake extension available after market but they can easily be fabricated. Rear axle must be removed to install the hub brackets. Bone Stock Small Rear Disk Conversion Maxima 4 X 4 1/2†lugs: Port F Labeled as such only due to the fact that they use all stock Nissan parts that can be adapted for use on the 1970-78 Z car. Major parts include: 1979-81 Nissan 280 ZX 15/16†master brake cylinder 1979-81 Nissan 280 ZX rear brake calipers and hangers 1979-81 Nissan 280 ZX rotors 4 X 4 1/2†lug pattern 1980-84 Nissan 810 Maxima Sedan rear brackets that have the screwed- on dust shield E-brake extension is available after market and they can easily be fabricated. Rear axle must be removed to install the hub brackets. As for the e-brake extension, it is mearly a section of flat stock with two hole drilled in it. Get one stick of 36"X1â€X5/32" mild steel flat stock at you local hardware store (1/8" may be esier to find), cut them into two sticks that measure 2"X1"X5/32†and drill holes to accomidate the stock e-brake U-shaped bracket and pin and a second pin is needed for the caliper. Holes may be about 1 1/2" apart or so. Not rocket science, simple fab that anyone with a small steel ruler, a hacksaw, a small grinder (bench or hand held) and a drill with bits can make in about an hour (if your slow at fabing stuff). It is cheap enough so if you mess up the first than you got 34" left to play with. Oh Speedway motors, Modern-Motorsports, Arizona Z, and Outlaw-brakes sells aftermarket stuff too. This information is not 100% correct and I am not responsible for inaccuracies in this document, this is intended for general information only. Please note that I am not a business and I am not affiliated with any organization or business in anyway. I am just a guy trying to help others keep their dreamZ alive. > Mike, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waynekarnes Posted November 30, 2003 Share Posted November 30, 2003 Legal disclaimer-I am not responsible for injury or death by use of any parts listed. By installing any parts you are taking full responsibilty for any damage, death, or injury due to the use of these parts. Not legal at all, period. Not D.O.T. approved, period. Not to be used for Highway use in any state anywhere, period. Enjoy. Engine Pin height Piston diameter Dish cc Type Date LZ-22S 35.0 87 9.32 720 truck 6/79-10/82 LZ-22E 32.5 87 9.32 200SX 7/81-0/83 LZ-24 34.0 89 0 720 truck 11/82-10/85 KA-24E 34.0 89 0 240SX 89-98 Bump spacers: 3/4†for 14†wheels 1†for 15†wheels Large Four Piston Front Brakes with Vented Rotors 4 X 4 1/2†lugs: Port A Labeled as such only due to the fact that they use all stock Nissan and Toyota parts that can be adapted for use on the 1970-78 Z car. Major parts include: 1979-81 Nissan 280 ZX 15/16†master brake cylinder 1970-73 Nissan Z hubs 4 X 4 1/2†lug pattern 1984-85 Nissan 300ZX front rotors 4 X 4 1/16†bolt pattern 1988-92 Toyota 4X4 V6 pickup front calipers marked ‘S12W’ OR 1995-00 Toyota 4-Runner 4X4 V6 front calipers marked ‘S13WB’ Eight bolts grade 10.9, 8 X 1.25 thread diameter and pitch 40 mm long with lock washers Two metal spacer as listed below; O.D. 155 mm I.D. 81 mm Thickness 17 mm Four 10.5 mm holes spaced 4 1/16†equidistance The front dust shield must be trimmed to accommodate the larger caliper or they will rub and wheel clearance is an issue with older RWD wheels, the caliper has a protrusion of about 30 mm over stock using the ‘S12W’ version and 28 mm over stick using the ‘S13WB’ version. You can use your old brake lines if you gently bend them to fit, just make sure they don’t touch or they will rub a hole in the brake lines. Small Four Piston Front Brakes with Solid or Vented Rotors 4 X 4 1/2†lugs: Port B Labeled as such only due to the fact that they use all stock Nissan and Toyota parts that can be adapted for use on the 1970-78 Z car. Major parts include: 1979-81 Nissan 280 ZX 15/16†master brake cylinder 1970-78 Nissan Z hubs 4 X 4 1/2†lug pattern 1970-78 Nissan Z rotors 4 X 4 1/16†bolt pattern 1979-85 Toyota 4X4 4 cylinder pickup with solid rotor, front calipers marked ‘S12+8’ OR 1986-88 Toyota 4X4 4 cylinder pickup with vented rotor, front calipers marked ‘S12+8’ 1984-85 Nissan 300ZX front rotors 4 X 4 1/16†bolt pattern Eight bolts grade 10.9, 8 X 1.25 thread diameter and pitch 40 mm long with lock washers Two metal spacer as listed below; O.D. 155 mm I.D. 81 mm Thickness 17 mm Four 10.5 mm holes spaced 4 1/16†equidistance The front dust shield must be trimmed to accommodate the larger caliper or they will rub and wheel clearance is an issue with older RWD wheels, the caliper has a protrusion of about 8 mm over stock using the solid rotor version and 20 mm over stock using the vented rotor version. You can use your old brake lines if you gently bend them to fit, just make sure they don’t touch or they will rub a hole in the brake lines. Big Rear Disk Brake Conversion 240 SX 4 X 4 1/2†lugs: Port C Labeled as such only due to the fact that they use all stock Nissan parts that can be adapted for use on the 1970-78 Z car. Major parts include: 1979-81 Nissan 280 ZX 15/16†master brake cylinder 1989-98 Nissan 240 SX calipers and hangers 1984-85 Nissan 300 ZX rear rotors 4 X 4 1/2†lug pattern 1986-89 Nissan FWD Maxima rear dust shields and hub brackets both bored, cut, and welded for correct offset E-Brake extension are available after market and they can easily be fabricated. Rear axle must be removed to install the hub brackets. Small Rear Disk Brake Conversion 280 ZX 4 X 4 1/2†lugs: Port D Labeled as such only due to the fact that they use all stock Nissan parts that can be adapted for use on the 1970-78 Z car. Major parts include: 1979-81 Nissan 280 ZX 15/16†master brake cylinder 1982-83 Nissan 280 ZX rear caliper and hangers 1982-83 Nissan 280 ZX rear rotor 4 X 4 1/2†lug pattern 1986-89 Nissan FWD Maxima rear dust shields and hub brackets both bored, cut, and welded for correct offset OR 1980-84 Nissan 810 Nissan Maxima Sedan rear brackets that have the floating dust shield No E-Brake extension available after market but they can easily be fabricated. Rear axle must be removed to install the hub brackets. Big Rear Disk Brake Conversion 280 ZX 4 X 4 1/2†lugs: Port E Labeled as such only due to the fact that they use all stock Nissan parts that can be adapted for use on the 1970-78 Z car. Major parts include: 1979-81 Nissan 280 ZX 15/16†master brake cylinder 1982-83 Nissan 280 ZX calipers and hangers 1984-85 Nissan 300 ZX rear rotors 4 X 4 1/2†lug pattern 1986-89 Nissan FWD Maxima rear dust shields and hub brackets both bored, cut and welded for correct offset No E-Brake extension available after market but they can easily be fabricated. Rear axle must be removed to install the hub brackets. Bone Stock Small Rear Disk Conversion Maxima 4 X 4 1/2†lugs: Port F Labeled as such only due to the fact that they use all stock Nissan parts that can be adapted for use on the 1970-78 Z car. Major parts include: 1979-81 Nissan 280 ZX 15/16†master brake cylinder 1979-81 Nissan 280 ZX rear brake calipers and hangers 1979-81 Nissan 280 ZX rotors 4 X 4 1/2†lug pattern 1980-84 Nissan 810 Maxima Sedan rear brackets that have the screwed- on dust shield E-brake extension is available after market and they can easily be fabricated. Rear axle must be removed to install the hub brackets. As for the e-brake extension, it is mearly a section of flat stock with two hole drilled in it. Get one stick of 36"X1â€X5/32" mild steel flat stock at you local hardware store (1/8" may be esier to find), cut them into two sticks that measure 2"X1"X5/32†and drill holes to accomidate the stock e-brake U-shaped bracket and pin and a second pin is needed for the caliper. Holes may be about 1 1/2" apart or so. Not rocket science, simple fab that anyone with a small steel ruler, a hacksaw, a small grinder (bench or hand held) and a drill with bits can make in about an hour (if your slow at fabing stuff). It is cheap enough so if you mess up the first than you got 34" left to play with. Oh Speedway motors, Modern-Motorsports, Arizona Z, and Outlaw-brakes sells aftermarket stuff too. This information is not 100% correct and I am not responsible for inaccuracies in this document, this is intended for general information only. Please note that I am not a business and I am not affiliated with any organization or business in anyway. I am just a guy trying to help others keep their dreamZ alive. > Mike, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomoHawk Posted November 30, 2003 Share Posted November 30, 2003 What's all that ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ supposed to mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waynekarnes Posted November 30, 2003 Share Posted November 30, 2003 no idea why my messages post twice. the above is a list, sent to me, when i wanted to do a rear disc brake and front brake upgrade. should show the parts one needs to upgrade/convert the 240 series to bigger/better ( ? ) front calipers and pads, as well as converting the rear to disc brakes. sorry, i didn't paste the question, that this message was the reply to. if i had, then this list would have made more sense. wayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilRufusKay Posted November 30, 2003 Share Posted November 30, 2003 Impressive list.... Lots of good info Thanks!! Rufus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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