mclark999 Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 Does anyone make or have you heard of anyone putting an air ride suspension on a first gen Z? It would be nice to have adjustable ride height and ride quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datsunlover Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 Never heard of anyone doing it.. but it would be possible for sure.. it'd make it more of a show car though.. I can't see how adding 100+ pounds of 'stuf' would be a performance improvement really.. I think between adjustable swaybar endlinks, bushings kits, coilovers and adjustable struts, there is plenty of 'adjustment' for ride/comfort that you can put in a Z.. 6" of suspension travel up and down might be kinda cool though.. hopin' Z.. heh.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead Roman Posted December 12, 2004 Share Posted December 12, 2004 id be more interested in tien's new adjustable suspension system, its worth a look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dot Posted December 12, 2004 Share Posted December 12, 2004 id be more interested in tien's new adjustable suspension system, its worth a look. got a link? Matt: I don't think adding air bags and a small compressor would add all that much weight considering the weight of the removed springs. I'm not sure if the handling would be all that great...but it sure would look good parked on the frame rails. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datsunlover Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 Well I was jut thinking of all the 'incidentals' that go with having bags and wanting adjustability (I am contemplating an air ride conversion in my 2wd truck in the spring.. maybe..) just a small compressor and no tank.. that will work, but be reeeeealy slow to pump up 4 bags.. Maybe it woudn't be 100 pounds, but IMO for what mclark is looking for (quicker adjustment, on the fly..) he'd need; 4 bags, all the fitings, air lines, valves/switches, compressor, small air tank.. it all adds up.. You can get what are called 'strut bags' now that basicaly replace the coil spring (an air bag with a hole down the center) but they are really pricey.. the other route is the 'normal' air bags (cheaper) but then you add some more weight from brackets/ect that you'd have to fab and attach to the car. btw.. how are ya Glenn? havn't seen you post in a while.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dot Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 btw.. how are ya Glenn? havn't seen you post in a while.. Not much in the way of cars. Just hanging out with the family. I had an old Riviera that had an air system. It consisted of air shocks a load leveller and a very small compressor. Very light. After you add some bags with the hole and some switches...it should still be light. The Riv only took 10 to 15 seconds to adjust to a heavy load. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DatsunATX Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 Anyone else have any thoughts on this cuz im gonna undertake this eventually. Me and a freind are gonna bag our Z's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike kZ Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 Not for a Z car, but you could maybe customize it: http://www.ridetech.com/productinfo/airstrut.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DatsunATX Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 I know that we are gonna have to customize the set up but just needed any info from people who have maby had or have air ride equiped rides like how much power and such for a car as small as the datsun thanks in advance thanks for the link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 Your best bet would be to contact the manufacturers. I'm guessing you'd only need a perch and the proper diameter? There's other systems out there too, one that is a cyclinder with one side open and the "closed" side moves up and down. Think of it as your upper perches/strut locators being height adjustable. The company was Roberuta and when I searched last year, there was no info on it. Just saw a mag advertisement. Owen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 They have a site now, http://www.roberuta.com/ more, http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~tq6n-ymd/roberuta/roberuta.html http://www011.upp.so-net.ne.jp/m-modetime/page043.html It's only about 2 grand...I wish I could just get the upper mounts. Owen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2126 Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 id be more interested in tien's new adjustable suspension system, its worth a look. Is that the one that has the threaded lower section, in addition to the normal collar adjustment for the spring. Great idea...get the piston to insert adjusted for proper travel and then be able to adjust your ride height without effecting the piston to insert relation....outstanding design. A buddy of mine just put a set on all four corners of his STI. Damn, why didn't I think of that one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DatsunATX Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 This is datsunatx im on my xbox so i cant log in but thanks for all the info and ill post more when i get my pc together Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DatsunATX Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 wow nevermind i guess it just says im not loged in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 Is that the one that has the threaded lower section, in addition to the normal collar adjustment for the spring. Great idea...get the piston to insert adjusted for proper travel and then be able to adjust your ride height without effecting the piston to insert relation....outstanding design. A buddy of mine just put a set on all four corners of his STI. Damn, why didn't I think of that one? That's a fully adjustable coilover system, works as you described. The Tein system involves an electric motor which rotates the "hardness" setting of the shocks. Something like the active suspension found in Z32s, RX7s, etc. Owen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nitr0 Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 http://www.truckn-store.com/product.asp?returnURL=default.asp&ID=86246 $1,695.00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToplessZ Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 Hmm Id spend 1700 bucks if there were a bolt in for the s30. Bags could still be set up to handle much better then stock. I have been thinking about this forever but I dont want to pay big bucks for a custom install. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclark999 Posted July 24, 2005 Author Share Posted July 24, 2005 That's exactly what I'm looking for. I just want to be able to adjust ride heigth precisely and have decent ride quality. I'm not looking for max performance. Now I have to find the budget. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclark999 Posted October 10, 2008 Author Share Posted October 10, 2008 Here's a current link to the air ride system. Need to call to confirm that it's for 280z not ZX http://www.truckn-store.com Just search on 280z and you can get a complete kit or the front and rear strut pairs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 I have a suspension shop and do air suspensions, soooooo here is my input on it all.. I would not put air on a Z style suspension if you plan on driving it hard. The only company right now that makes a decnet air strut is Air Lift Technolgies. (eazy street) The reason is they still use a actual strut for support while other companies do not. So far i've had good luck with them on Hondas and other imports. They do not provide much lift, but "could" work. Air Ride Technolgies, look the best, but fail if you plan on driving them on a daily basis. I've removed them from many trucks and used them to kick around the shop. The only reason i'd ever use them is on a full show vehicle and not plan on driving much at all. (on off a trailer, perhaps 1-2 times a month, etc) The truckin web site is the worse company out there, they will lie to get your buisness and bend you over if you try and return stuff. I have delt with them (not in the last 8 years though) and have had customers try and deal with them. Now if a customer brings me their kit I charge more than if they bring me nothing. The quality sucks REALLY bad. The owner of the company is a big time doushe bag. I would beat the ♥♥♥♥ out of him if I ever meet him. They are also known as Chassis Tech, Aim Industries, and about a dozen other names. Couple of ideas.... I do someday want to build a bagged first gen Z, but i'd build a full frame, upper lower front control arms, with probally a second gen RX7 rear. Also if someone just "HAD" to have the standard strut suspension.... front i'd probally try and find room and mount air springs somewhere in front or behind the front suspension and run a bell crank to the LCA. the front unibody would have to be substantually reinforced in the general area. Rear do something similar but put the air springs inside and have them push against each others and build a mount to to the upper strut towers for reinforcement. Its 4:50am, i'm tired, hope i didn't bore anyone..... One of my favorite pics, me towing my Z with my bagged 1-ton. (which is ALLOT lower now than it was then in the pic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.