tfreer85 Posted February 2, 2005 Share Posted February 2, 2005 Okay, i'm looking into the R-32 swap into my automatic transmission 71 240z. Now aren't the skyline motors AWD? What i'm wondering and I know a lot of you are going to say use the search thing and i have been. however, i'm curious how it is that you guys are installing an AWD transmission into an RWD car? And how is it that I can do the same? Okay one more question, the motor mounts, I'm going to have to use z-31 motor mounts correct? And the driveline should be the right length? Basically I'm looking to do what Stoney did with his z. Something similar, but of course better , if anybody in the San Jaquin Valley, or Kern County, CA who has done the swap or something similar would be a great help. Now I just need the money and all the other parts woo, bankrup city here i come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrayZee Posted February 2, 2005 Share Posted February 2, 2005 I don't have a huge amount of knowledge on RB swaps but my buddy has a RB26 240z and I know that he is using a z32 5spd (I guess they have the same bellhousing) If you need some mounts shoot him a email as sells very nice stainless steel ones for the 240/280z Brad_Davies@omniglass.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeatRaveR Posted February 2, 2005 Share Posted February 2, 2005 From what I've read about the RB swap, you usually get the RWD GTS-T Skyline tranny to bolt up to the RB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JAMIE T Posted February 2, 2005 Share Posted February 2, 2005 The Z32TT bellhousing isn't the same. I think you can attach the front half of the RB trans to the rear half of the TT trans. Do a search, I think Joel did this and has pics in a post somewhere. FWIW, If you want to keep your car an automatic, RB25's came with automatics also and McKinney Motorsports sells an adapter to bolt a GM automatic to the RB's. Kinda pricey at $1200 though. FWIW again... RB25DET manual 5-spds show up on ebay fairly regularly. This RB/240Z conversion isn't for the faint at heart. This stuff gets expensive real fast. I refuse to add up all I've spent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RB26powered74zcar Posted February 2, 2005 Share Posted February 2, 2005 This RB/240Z conversion isn't for the faint at heart. This stuff gets expensive real fast. I refuse to add up all I've spent. I will.... (estimated) at least $18,000 so far, and counting.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tfreer85 Posted February 2, 2005 Author Share Posted February 2, 2005 Now when you're saying 18000 dollars, is that for the total amount of money that you have into your whole datsun or just into the engine modification to get it installed and working correctly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeusEx Posted February 2, 2005 Share Posted February 2, 2005 18k? for what an rb swap? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeatRaveR Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 RB25's came with automatics also Can you tell me if the RB25 automatic was just a regular 4-spd, or did it have a Sportshift/Tiptronic feature? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JAMIE T Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 I haven't a clue what auto trans is behind the RB25DET. I just know one was available. The RB25 came out in the R33 if that helps at all. Ok. So, I'm not the only one who's spent $18K+. FWIW guys, I've not paid retail for anything except a few things from Summit like gauges and the fuel cell, and tires. That is just in parts. I've done ALL of the labor and I still need more parts for the rear diff (r230ZXTT conversion). Plus misc. odds and ins. I could have done this cheaper by using a r200 rear and regular Z parts. Also, I bought Stony's complete set-up for a decent price, but I got greedy on HP and have been buying hipo parts for it. Cams, (HK$ valve springs), cam gears, turbo's(HK$). My exhaust is all stainless. I bought Bride seats, high end gauges, 18" wheels with big drag radials out back. I even bought a spare engine to "build". So, my total build has cost over $20K and the motor isn't in the car and none of the stuff I've bought over the last few months has been bolted or made to fit the car yet. That's all labor, and I'm doing it all. That price includes the car and all parts bought previous to me deciding to go RB26. Stony warned me not to buy HK$ turbo's becuase they are over priced... I think I got a good deal on the GT2540's I bought. Supposedly good for 750+ horse power. I got the kit for @$2K. It is a complete ready to bolt-on "kit" that doesn't require me to change any of the IC pipeing and air intake stuff. I'll just need to be careful tuning the SDS. I admit, I have deviated from Stony's warnings about getting the car going with the set-up as it was. But, I couldn't help myself. I readily admit to "over doing it". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tfreer85 Posted February 3, 2005 Author Share Posted February 3, 2005 There is never such a things as over-doing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhadman Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 So, I'm not the only one who's spent $18K+. Shoot... I'm at $10k and I still need: Diff (R200 or R230) Anyone got one? LOL Driveshaft Exhaust Intercooler Intercooler Piping BOV Fuel Cell Fuel pump and plumbing Seats/harnesses Gauges Cage Coilovers Shocks Front 5-lug conversion (Modern Motorsports) Brake discs Brake lines It's not hard to spend $20k... but it's not for the faint of heart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 Im using an adapter from austrailia. it was half the price of the adapters in the states. ordered it from the castlemine rod shop. They have adapter for just about anything you can think of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tfreer85 Posted February 3, 2005 Author Share Posted February 3, 2005 Okay, well you guys are doing a lot of upgrades to the over all car, I can easily see that getting up to +18K. But it seems that you can do just the swap, engine (including intercooler and upgraded radiator), tranny, driveshaft, and upgrade of the differential for a lot less right? I mean on down the road, I can see adding roll cages, guages, racing seats, carbon fiber hoods, upgraded turbos and general performance. But for the basic, install the car and get it running total should be a lot less, I'm guessing with my RB25 including transmission is $2500, the motor mounts are I think $450-500 (infinity machining), driveshaft ???, and then upgrade a the rear-end possibly another $2000. The wiring I can get done for free. So that total cost for the install is around $5000, US dollars. Then add another $1000 or so for intercooler and piping. So you're around $6000 for a basic setup right? Please correct me if i'm wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RB26powered74zcar Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 tfreer85 maybe... if you get a motorset in perfect cond. and don't have to repair/ replace anything on it. remember, these motors, 9 times out of 10 are mis represented when sold, as being a " 45,000 mi" motor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tfreer85 Posted February 4, 2005 Author Share Posted February 4, 2005 Okay, so i'm buying a RB25DET with the manual transmission. For those of you who have already done this conversion, what type of clutch assembly and pedal assembly are you guys using? The stock 240/260/280 or are you guys using a custom setup and if so how much has that cost you? Also does anybody know of any motor mounts that are cheaper than Infinity Machinings $450 price? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RB26powered74zcar Posted February 4, 2005 Share Posted February 4, 2005 Also does anybody know of any motor mounts that are cheaper than Infinity Machinings $450 price? when did they jump from $275-$300 to $450? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tfreer85 Posted February 4, 2005 Author Share Posted February 4, 2005 when did they jump from $275-$300 to $450? Okay sorry I was mis-reading (thats a better price btwhttp://forums.hybridz.org/images/icons/icon7.gif.) But do you have any info on the pedal assemblies? Slave cylinders etc.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted February 4, 2005 Share Posted February 4, 2005 you use all your stock stuff pedals and all. the slave and slave hose from the r33 gtst 5 speed will work, you just need to swap it out with the stock Z one. you may want to get a new clutch slave or atleast rebuild you stock one. that was the first thing to go on mine when i put the stronger clutch in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tfreer85 Posted February 4, 2005 Author Share Posted February 4, 2005 Well, see thats the problem is I currently have an automatic, so that means i gotta go find a manual setup from the local junkyards or if anybody on here knows of one for cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted February 4, 2005 Share Posted February 4, 2005 oh ok i got ya.... yea just go pick the setup out of a junked Z. grab everything except the stuff welded in the car. the bracket should allready be there for the clutch and brake pedal on an auto car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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