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EDIT: I finally get a couple stainless steel side vent trim pieces cut out and buffed to a high shine and intall them on the fenders and it looks like a chicken coop built onto the side of a million dollar mansion. I learned a few things in the process to build trim rings for the plexiglass headlight covers...Use about 14 guage thick steel sheet metal that can be easily welded.. Make a pattern to cut out 4 sections and then weld sections together and powder coat or chrome plate or paint. Use my metal cutting bandsaw for the major cutting with grinder and file work to finish..Here are the first pics of the GTO and the trim vents not installed becuz I do not want to disgrace the car further Photos:http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/larryjohnson97438/album?.dir=8223&.src=ph&store=&prodid=&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/ph//my_photosI want to fabricate some stainless steel or aluminum flat trim pieces for my GTO 250 project........1. Hand held air nibblers (punch and die) are reported to cut steel up to 1/16 inch and aluminum up to 5/64 ths... Will the air nibbler distort the metal.. Anyone with experience on this tool??????? ....Can it cut tight radius and straight lines............2. I have a large throat stationary jigsaw.... Are there metal cutting jigsaw blades strong enough to cut aluminum or stainleess steel without breaking and "chattering" (vibrating) the workpiece all over the table? ????????.... .....>>>>>I have a mig wire welder, hand held grinders,files, body hammers, vices, various tin snips and a metal cutting bandsaw that are all somewhat limited to fabricate trim pieces and turn a radius in the cut. . .................>I have made a paper pattern to fabricate trim rings for the clear plexiglass headlight covers requiring at least two mig welds to join. The jig saw or air nibbler would allow me to make most trim parts out of one piece and without welding. IF THEY WILL CUT METAL......(The headlight cover trim rings will require welding)

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I have heard the air nibbler is great for tight manouvering, but not ideal for straightline.

 

I just bought an electric metal shear. It looks like a normal drill, but has metal scissors on the end. It will cut 14 guage steel, is as easy to steer as a jig saw and very easy to follow a straight line. It is very quiet..like a drill.

 

I looked at the air powered models but they topped out at 16-18 guage steel.

 

Never been happier now that I have one, and wish I had one years ago.

 

Good luck with your project.

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Tim ...that was what I was curious about : "using a fence"... For $18.00 at Harbour Freight......I have a sheet of stainless steel. Sell my aluminum scrap Monday....Tim, I would rather have my $ in tools and parts than burning a hole in my pocket. You can go out and spend $200.00 in a day and have nothing to show for it...My GTO project is coming along good (after almost 10 years).. Wife even quit complaining after she saw all the body panels on.

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I have been cutting aluminum sheet for years with my table saw and a

fine tooth carbide blade. I use a home made crosscut sled to set the

aluminum on. The only kickback I have ever had was when I tried it with

the rip fence as a guide. So the word of warning is DONT USE THE RIP

FENCE EVER!!! I have made all the custom aluminum brackets for my z

using this method. The aluminum just cuts like oak or any other hard

wood. A cheap Harbor Freight table saw will do just fine for this. I have

a second sled set at a 45 to do the corners. It will even work to attach

a sled to the stock miter gauge.

 

Here is a picture of a simple srosscut sled

http://www.woodworkingtips.com/etips/images/etip030822wb-1.jpg

the sled I made uses only the one miter slot as a guide.

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I got to Harbor Freight and bought the air nibbler plus an air body saw and and an air grinder.. The nibbler appears to do what I want. I have not used the air grinder and bought it for $10.00 because of the $3.00 a package for 10 grinding discs that fit the grinders 3/8 arbor (somehow I developed the logic for that purchase and I will save enough money to pay for the argon mix for the mig welding LOL) .....Get the air saw after the fiberglass "cutouts" in the GTO body and cut this great straight line for approximately 3 inches in the fiberglass. The air saw quits on the end of the "out-stroke". I finally Convince it to start again for another inch and it quits on the "in-stroke". Go back and get another body saw. The second one is no improvement over the first and actually worse. I have a third one now and will apply some scientific technology., I am going to name this saw "willie". Since the blade operates on a basic in and out stroke and I have tried everything to encourage it's operation; I will obtain some viagra to use as a lubrication inducement to persuade this saw to perform. I am hoping for about a full 3 hours of non-stop work from "willie". Is this asking too much for a 2 1/2 inch blade.... at least I am keeping all the blades that come with the saw(s) and have 18 now.

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Just my .02 but I have used a bandsaw for my smaller pc's. Depending on how big your bandsaw is you could probably do some decent size parts, but you must have the right blade for the type of material you are cutting. SS is going to need a very high tpi count and depending on how thick a material you are cutting it can go slow. With a good layout you can do just about anything though.

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Ernie...good point on the stainless steel and work hardening... .Bill I have a 14 inch Rockwell bandsaw with extension.... it has something like over 100 inches of blade.. I could get a small blade for turning tight radius. My Rigid horizontal metal bandsaw has a small work table that I fabricated for use in the vertical position but due to the small 2 inch square work table there is little cutting accuracy. The air nibbler will cut 16 guage and I have some 17 or 18 guage flat SS to experiment with....... Right now I am trying to find a contour guage (for copying radius shapes and curves) to make the patterns for some of the trim.. My contour guage also developed legs and feet and walked away during my 2 + year absence. Now I can't remember where I bought the first one (LOL)

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I would trace your pattern onto the ss and then cut to the outside of your template.then use a belt sander or clamp a disc sander in a vise and sand to your template;s line.You will have to sand the edges anyway and you lesson the risk of cutting inside your templates lines.This also allows you to use a tool that may not be very accurate or one that slightly distorts the edge.

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Can you imagine the air body saw seems to operate better since I found the Marvel Air Tool Oil. For about 6 hours today I alternated between about all the tools mentioned in this thread to create 2 side vent stainless steel trim pieces for the GTO ptoject and tried each individual suggestion twice. I cut the stainless steel trim to fit the side vents but cutting out the inside of the trim was PITA with either the airbody saw refusing to operate or the blade going dull. (I still have to straighten out the inside lines) This saw makes the best cuts but not for long... I rough cut with the air nibbler....straight line cut and trimmed with bandsaw...used 3 different grinder/sanders. ruined 5 cheap air body saw blades... used 2 different files. 2 different size vices. The passenger side vents are slightly different from the driver's side which means I have to make a different pattern for them. I also managed to get the vents and grille cut out eith the airbidy saw without too much downtime.There is got to be some kind of rolling shear/bead bench top tool that will do this trim work....GTO pictures http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/larryjohnson97438/album?.dir=8223&.src=ph&store=&prodid=&.done=http%3a//pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/larryjohnson97438/my_photos

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