johnc Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 What I did on a Saturday in November. It also looks like I'm going to be doing some of the restoration work on this car. http://www.betamotorsports.com/benchracing/Goldenrod.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DatsunATX Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 Thats really neat man, I was just reading about that monster in car craft. -Ben- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnc Posted November 19, 2005 Author Share Posted November 19, 2005 Here's an article in SI about the beginning of the resoration. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/racing/more/05/10/goldenrod/ When the car went over on display at the Goodwood festival a few years ago, the dock workers dropped it and the chassis cracked in several places. There is a LOT of work that needs to be done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tfreer85 Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 What I did on a Saturday in November. It also looks like I'm going to be doing some of the restoration work on this car. That is just a testament to the quality of work that you do John, congrats, that thing is awesome. Tyson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavyZ Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 What I did on a Saturday in November. It also looks like I'm going to be doing some of the restoration work on this car. John, do you know exactly what you'll be working on and can you reveal that? Details, man, details! Very cool...now if you can only take it up and down the blvd a few times... Davy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnc Posted November 21, 2005 Author Share Posted November 21, 2005 John, do you know exactly what you'll be working on and can you reveal that? Details, man, details! Very cool...now if you can only take it up and down the blvd a few times... I talked with John Baechtel, the person overseeing the restoration, about repairing the suspension upper and lower control arms and rebuilding the shifter. Nothing is definate yet. Right now, unfortunately, a static display restoration is planned. The original hemi engines were taken back by Chrysler at the end of 1965 and given to drag racers. The engine blocks in the photos are just that, blocks and heads only, no internals. John has approached Chrysler about supplying 4 crate hemi engines but Chrysler declined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JAMIE T Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 Nice score. Getting a job like that is a great testament to you. Something to take great pride in. I think you meant 2400 HP, not 24000 hp. Keep us updated! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v8dats Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 wow john YOU THE MAN!!!! what a feeling to have someone bring you such a project. good luck and keep us posted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnc Posted December 7, 2005 Author Share Posted December 7, 2005 I added a link to the bottom of this page (http://www.betamotorsports.com/benchracing/Goldenrod.html) that will show the work I'm doing. I've been working on the front upper control arms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusPuppis Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 Very nice work. Some of those welds on the patch lyou removed ook kinda frightening. Looks like something I welded.. Which is the exact reason I wouldnt weld something like that, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMortensen Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 That is very cool to see. I agree with MusPuppis though. Some of those patches are SCARY. Can't believe they just pulled into a gas station and let somebody start welding on it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnc Posted December 9, 2005 Author Share Posted December 9, 2005 Another update. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusPuppis Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 Nice nice nice. I have a question though, How did the peices your re-doing fail to begin with? From what I read it sounded like they broke while the Goldenrod was being trailered around? I know nothing of suspension components but that seems a little odd, lol. Just curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnc Posted December 9, 2005 Author Share Posted December 9, 2005 Remember, this thing weighed 8,500 lbs and was designed to run on a perfectly flat and level surface and never make a turn. Suspension travel, from looking at the shocks and springs, was maybe 2" total. Now, put this single purpose vehicle in a 1965 era trailer and drive it around the country. Its easy to see how a series of frost heaves, potholes, or the 15 miles of expansion joints on I10 around Fontana, CA could make the suspension repeatedly bottom out hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
80LS1T Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 I like this statement off your site.... And now its time to grind down most of the welds so you can't tell any repairs were done. Seems funny that I go to all this work to make sure no one can tell I went to all this work. Nice work so far! Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusPuppis Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 Remember, this thing weighed 8,500 lbs and was designed to run on a perfectly flat and level surface and never make a turn. Good point, my stupidity for not taking all the factors into consideration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnc Posted January 17, 2006 Author Share Posted January 17, 2006 Finished up the control arms and now I'm wire brushing bunches of nuts and bolts. All the bolt heads have "SUPERTANIUM ALLOY" in raised letters along the edge of the bolt heads with TV screen shaped symbol in the centers. I got curious, did some research, and found that these were SAE Grade 10 and 12 bolts used until SAE eliminated grades above 8 in 1970 due to hydrogen embrittlement failures. They are also still available so I ordered a catalog. Supposedly these things have 200,000 psi tensile (Grade 10) and 280,000 psi tensile (Grade 12) strength. Grade 8 typically has a rating about 170,000 psi tensile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavyZ Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 Supposedly these things have 200,000 psi tensile (Grade 10) and 280,000 psi tensile (Grade 12) strength. Grade 8 typically has a rating about 170,000 psi tensile. Cripes! I'm curious to know just how expensive these bolts are with ratings like that. Are they really necessary or is this just for some extreme (what isn't?) racing purpose? Also, any pics of your work??? Davy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speeder Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 You got serious skilz, John. Very cool project. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnc Posted January 18, 2006 Author Share Posted January 18, 2006 I added some more pictures on my Goldenrod web pages: http://www.betamotorsports.com/benchracing/GoldenrodRestoration-1.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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