1FASTKINGCAB Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 I have been thinking long & hard on this. I currently run a Greddy emanage which up untill now has worked fine for me, but I am to the point now where I am going to step up the turbo(s) and fuel shooting for 600-700WHP by this time next year. I was lightly thinking megasquirt, But I would feel much safer going with an off the shelf Fuel/spark unit. I need to stay under $2K in parts. And I don't like the AEM system so far I am thinking; HKS F-CON-V Haltech E6X Motech M6OO? I was also thinking about running a Haltech F10X (fuel only) and the factory ECM W/ a MSD box to do the timing. Any input? thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yo2001 Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 if do go Haltech E6x, make sure you get the new version II. I heard the original one had problems. HKS got locked ECU can't be tuned without an athourize dealer or have someone who knows how to unlocked it. Motec is crazy high$$$. I persnally have Haltech E6K and pretty happy with it. Old school but once you get use to the DOS base software, it's easy to tune Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1FASTKINGCAB Posted December 10, 2005 Author Share Posted December 10, 2005 Yeha, I am probably going with the E6X I just know that there are more options out there that I have forgoton about. but the Price in right on te Haltech and it is packed W/ all the options I need. are there any problems running a E6X on a VG30 ? (optical dizzy.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikelly Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 We're running a Holley COmmander 950 with a Wideband piggyback on Jim M's car. Tuning is the issue with any of these standalones... Once you get beyond that learning curve, it depends on the interface you like. I've got TWO COmmander 950s now for my track car, so I'm gonna stick with them for now. FWIW they work in 4, 6 & 8 cylinder configurations. MOTEC stuff is stupid expensive. HKS's FCON seems to be like most of the others out there... What about FAST? Supposedly that was the latest and greatest to go up against the AEM unit... Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Loose_Screws Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 Plenty of successes (and some failures) with the MegaSquirt system. If you are methodical and don't take shortcuts, I think it is a easy to use. I am biased of course because I am running megasquirt, but I also helped Yo2001 do his e6k. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yo2001 Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 FAST system is pretty nice. I've only heard good things about them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernardd Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 JWT has tuned a L28ET with the ford lightning maf and 72lb injectors to 32psi with a GT 3740. Would that cover your power needs? Very user friendly IMO and under 2k. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ON3GO Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 FAST system is nice.. was sorta wow'ed with how easy it was to use also. megasquirt i do like also. Microtech im a BIG fan of, liking it more and more. Haltech i like also. theres tons of good ones out there, all depends on price for most ppl though. mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo280Z Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 whats the best bang for your buck for the management systems? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EZ-E Posted January 1, 2006 Share Posted January 1, 2006 Does anyone use or has anyone ever tried EMS's units, the new Stinger 4 unit looks pretty decent for the price. http://www.ptrsds.com/ems_stinger_4424.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Aguyandaredhead Posted January 1, 2006 Share Posted January 1, 2006 It's a little more money, but I think Haltech E11v2. If you ever upgrade motor componets you will have what is needed. It is one of the most well rounded systems out there. I also like the Microtech as well.. I like the Halwin software better though. Just my .02 Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed260Z Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 I'm still researching my new ECM, but I'm leaning towards the unit from AEM. This has to be the most adjustable system on the market, Period. The price for the system I would need is not cheap, but it does everything, Boost control;Fuel Mng; Nitrious; Ign timing; ect.......... I've down loaded the manual, and holy S%!T, indepth would be an understatement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ON3GO Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 I'm still researching my new ECM, but I'm leaning towards the unit from AEM. This has to be the most adjustable system on the market, Period. not true.. althought a great unit MegaSquirt is way more tunable.. mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed260Z Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 I didn't know the Mega Squirt was so versitale. The big draw for me is that the AEM unit is PNP for a RB26DETT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimZ Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 not true.. althought a great unit MegaSquirt is way more tunable.. mike Based on what? I guess I haven't researched it that thoroughly, but at a glance, the MegaSquirt appears to be on about the same level as my TEC-II, except with 12x12 maps (before anybody gets all mad, I'm not saying there is anything wrong with that). The AEM has an almost ridiculous amount of tuneable parameters, unless they have grossly simplified it lately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed260Z Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 Yehh the AEM is a bit scary at first glance, and when you look into it further it gets even scarier.LOL I figure that by the time I'm ready to get a new ECM I would have read the manual a few times. If I still have problems, there is a tuner shop localy that is AEM trained. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vashonz Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 whats the best bang for your buck for the management systems? Best bang for your buck is probably megasquirt. Second to that I think is SDS. It does not have all the features of some of the EMS systems, but for a beginner (like me) because it is less complex I will supposedly get the engine to a higher state of tune. One of the biggest factors for me choosing SDS was it was cheap, easy to understand and install, and does not require soldering or troubleshooting electronic assemblies (I are mechanic). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjo046 Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 What about the Electromotive TEC3? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bastaad525 Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 Why hasn't anyone mentioned SDS? that seemed to be the 'bang for the buck' standalone of choice until MS started gaining in popularity. Seems you can do a full SDS setup for less than $1000. Controls fuel and ignition. That was what I was planning on back when I was still planning on stuff and before I found out about megasquirt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK-Z Posted January 24, 2006 Share Posted January 24, 2006 Why hasn't anyone mentioned SDS? that seemed to be the 'bang for the buck' standalone of choice until MS started gaining in popularity. Seems you can do a full SDS setup for less than $1000. Controls fuel and ignition. That was what I was planning on back when I was still planning on stuff and before I found out about megasquirt. Street legality (smog)? won't pass with it installed ( no E.O. number for it), but if the car is 30 years or older then doesn't need smog test (Cali smog law). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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