DaleMX Posted April 29, 2006 Share Posted April 29, 2006 I have gone to a solid mount and AZ's billet mustache bar. I am wondering if I can just leave the counterweight out, or would it be better to leave it in. Any thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMortensen Posted April 29, 2006 Share Posted April 29, 2006 If you have a solid mount, that weight is just ballast. Throw it overboard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueovalz Posted April 29, 2006 Share Posted April 29, 2006 I'm not intimately familar with the billet bar, but if you're using a solid/urethane (rubber) combination mounting setup, be sure to do a "search" on this subject as it is considered a risk in regards to the front (solid) mounting failure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaleMX Posted April 29, 2006 Author Share Posted April 29, 2006 That's what I thought, thank's Jon. Thanks Terry, the bar is solid aluminum, but mounts to the frame with poly bushings. I'll search for info on that issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMortensen Posted April 29, 2006 Share Posted April 29, 2006 Dale, the short of it is the bar would be stronger with aluminum bushings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2126 Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 Interesting statement Jon! How would a different bushing material effect the strength of the bar? I believe a stiffer bushing will result in a tighter set-up but I don't believe it will make the bar stronger! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMortensen Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 You can search and see the last run through of this topic, but the short version is that the stock mustache bar is a big spring. The aluminum bars cannot twist like the stock mustache bar can, so Dave recommends you use a solid front mount. The solid front mount is known to tear up the front crossmember. If you use solid rear bushings that prevents deflection so that that rear mounts carry the load in addition to the front mount. In particular the front is isolated with regards to torque when you have a solid front and soft rear mounts, and the mustache bar with its widely spaced attachment points is much better equipped to deal with torque than the front mount is. Maybe I shouldn't have said the BAR would be stronger. But the whole thing would be stronger with aluminum bushings in back. Or you could say that the strength of the mustache bar would be more fully utilized with aluminum bushings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2126 Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 I kinda thought thats what you were trying to get across Jon....I just didn't want someone to think that changing to solid bushings would make the rear cross bar stronger. I was thinking......Jon is loosing it! You know how some will believe just about anything they read. Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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