ZuL8r Posted July 2, 2006 Share Posted July 2, 2006 Can someone explain to me how you gutted the power steering pump to use it as a pulley only. Its on a 1997 F-body LT1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deja Posted July 2, 2006 Share Posted July 2, 2006 Good question, been wondering about that myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbk240z Posted July 3, 2006 Share Posted July 3, 2006 Why not use a salvage yard idler pulley from a serpentine belt equipped vehicle, doesn't have to be fbody or G.M. even. It wouldn't be very hard to adapt and would look better than an empty p/s pump. Anyway, good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deja Posted July 3, 2006 Share Posted July 3, 2006 Why not use a salvage yard idler pulley from a serpentine belt equipped vehicle' date=' doesn't have to be fbody or G.M. even. It wouldn't be very hard to adapt and would look better than an empty p/s pump.Anyway, good luck.[/quote'] That's an option of course. And there are tons of expemsive after market systems too. Just looking at all the options. I'm using a Z28 LT1 and I don't think that system will fit under the hood anyway so I'll probably need to fabricate or adapt somethimg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gexgexgexgex Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 so can i just empty ou the PS fluid and leave it as a pully or should i put some PS fluit in it and loop the lines? Does the PS fluid help to loob the pulley? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piston Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 i just left my ps pump with the hose disconnected. i tried to gut the ps pump but the retainer clip in the back looks like thers no way its going to come out. unless im doing it wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartman Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 My PS pump was gutted by the previous owner (Tim240Z), and it seems to spin as smooth if not smoother than an idler pulley would. Using the stock PS pump as an idler also ensures that the geometry of the serpentine belt stays the same, so I really don't see an advantage of replacing it with something else. Tim removed the little plates in the vanes to keep it from pumping and put oil in it to lube and cool the bearings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78zlt1 Posted September 26, 2006 Share Posted September 26, 2006 Should just be able to remove the vanes/ wipers , from inside the pump. Whoops didnt read all your post Bartman Tim removed the little plates in the vanes to keep it from pumping and put oil in it to lube and cool the bearings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gexgexgexgex Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 I have searched and found a few people asking if you coud just loop the power steering lines, but no one has answered them. So i thought i would just ask. So can you just loop the low and high sides of the power steering pump with a little fluid and it would be enough to loob it or what. If no one has done it yet, i will try it as soon as my car is ready to run and let everyone know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartman Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 I have searched and found a few people asking if you coud just loop the power steering lines, but no one has answered them. So i thought i would just ask. So can you just loop the low and high sides of the power steering pump with a little fluid and it would be enough to loob it or what. If no one has done it yet, i will try it as soon as my car is ready to run and let everyone know You want to loop the lines and not gut it? It would probably work, but you would be taking some horsepower to do it that way. My lines are just capped off with rubber caps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gexgexgexgex Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 the problem with gutting it is that i can not get it open. I think there is a retaining clip or something on the back that needs a special tool and then maybe a new clip as well. But i maybe wrong about opening it up, i have been wrong before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartman Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 Why don't you send a PM to Tim240Z and see if he can tell you how he did it on the unit I have. He should be able to help you out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheelman Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 Tim's site has info on how he did it, at least it used to anyway. I tried following Tim's instructions to gut mine and couldn't get the retaining clip out either, so I gave up and fabbed a bracket with 2 idler pulleys to replace the AC and PS. I can't see why looping the input to output wouldn't work, should just circulate the fluid with very little resistance as no pressure will be built up. BTW: The F-Body accessory mount does clear the hood with plenty of room to spare, so does the B-Body accessory mount. Wheelman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RisqueRace? Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 Hi All: I have not posted here for a long time but I saw this post and I thought I'd let you know that I have been running my 97 LT-1 pump with a hose plumbed from the inlet to the outlet directly, filled with fluid (ATF) for about three years with no harm. I even race the car at the strip from time to time. The only thing I have experienced that might be detrimental to some is the pump starts to "click lightly" when warmed up. Vane clatter?? or cavitation?? I don't know. Bruce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeMS Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 To remove the ring from the back of the pump I drilled a 1/8 in hole above the ring close to the gap deep enough to get a pick in and behind the ring. The back of the pump is spring loaded, push it down and use a pick to wedge the ring out of the grove. Remove all the pump parts, remove the little vains, reinstall all the parts back in order. I also removed the pressure valve and spring out of the lower fitting, added some oil and epoxied the holes. Lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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