mull Posted July 4, 2006 Share Posted July 4, 2006 I found the ZZ-20 universal kit, and compared to Painless wiring's universal 18 circuit kit (priced at $310) it seems like a bargain - costing only ~$130. And considering it's got 21 circuits - all the better. Not that I'll be needing all those circuits anyway... : ) So... Anyone know if it's OK? Is Painless quiality really 280% better? Let me know : ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlderThanMe Posted July 4, 2006 Share Posted July 4, 2006 I'd use painless. I am rewiring my car by hand and it is worth it but I was about to go with the painless kit. The painless kit that I saw was like $250 for 20 circuits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mull Posted July 4, 2006 Author Share Posted July 4, 2006 Saw where? Everywhere I look (Summit and eBay) they cost ~$300. Cheapest I found was the 8-circ @ $239 and the 12-circ @ $275. Fill me in. Edit: Why would you go for Painless? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustorbust Posted July 4, 2006 Share Posted July 4, 2006 if that kit has the same features as painless i say go for it. painless does do a good job with labeling the wires, providing a basic schematic and includes fuses. i ended up with painless on another project only because thats all i knew, now i would not hesitate to use a different brand as long as it came with something to reference to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlderThanMe Posted July 4, 2006 Share Posted July 4, 2006 sorry... got this companies price mixed with the painless name...I was looking at this one too. http://www.hotrodwires.com/18Circuit.html the 18 circuit kit is $219 my Dad talked with the owner and it is a one man business. He does all of the kit building himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mull Posted July 5, 2006 Author Share Posted July 5, 2006 if that kit has the same features as painless i say go for it. painless does do a good job with labeling the wires, providing a basic schematic and includes fuses. i ended up with painless on another project only because thats all i knew, now i would not hesitate to use a different brand as long as it came with something to reference to. The wires are labeled every 4 inches. I assume there's some schematic included. Fuses - not sure. They're not that expensive anyway : ) edit: Included: • 20 Mini Fuses • 21 Circuits • Horn Relay • 2 Flashers • Dust Cover sorry... got this companies price mixed with the painless name...I was looking at this one too. http://www.hotrodwires.com/18Circuit.html the 18 circuit kit is $219 my Dad talked with the owner and it is a one man business. He does all of the kit building himself. Ah' date=' that's what I thought... No worries! : ) I just thought it seemed a bit weird that a guy who rolls paint, uses the curb to work under the car, etc, etc, would pay just to get a "Painless Wiring" sticker on the fusebox : ) Thanks for that additional link. Price is about the same as Summit's universal 18 circuit harness. It's [b']SUM-890020[/b] if you wanna check it out! http://www.summitracing.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaysZ Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 i got mine from http://www.ez2wire.net and the quality looks good. they use thicker gauge wire than most and the 12 circuit was just $115. EDIT: plus you can download diagrams and installation guides for their kit from them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ZFury Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 $300 for a bunch of wire and a fuse box. sorta' joking... I may would get one if I was building a car from scratch. Still would shop around though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mario_82_ZXT Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 I'm probably going with the ez-wiring kit. Not to be confused by ez2wire. Similar price and people here have had good success with it. Mario Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shift Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 doesn't surprise me on the amount. Can get the same amount of wire for $50, but you also have to think about that they used different colored wires ( can't just right the whole thing up with just black wires, but you can try:mrgreen: ), and then you have to throw in the connecters and such. Sounds about right for the price, but I'm pretty sure you can find cheaper (may not be the same quality though). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mull Posted July 5, 2006 Author Share Posted July 5, 2006 i got mine from http://www.ez2wire.net and the quality looks good. they use thicker gauge wire than most and the 12 circuit was just $115. EDIT: plus you can download diagrams and installation guides for their kit from them. Ships to: United States :-C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlderThanMe Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 Ah, that's what I thought... No worries! : ) I just thought it seemed a bit weird that a guy who rolls paint, uses the curb to work under the car, etc, etc, would pay just to get a "Painless Wiring" sticker on the fusebox : ) ahaha yeah...I am pretty cheap. I did break down after having lots of problems with my home made ignition box and bought a low end MSD box to get me around town...soon to be replaced with a distributorless system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaysZ Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 Ships to: United States [/b'] :-C oh.. hrmm.. well, if you decide you want this kit i'll be more than happy to order it and ship it to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustorbust Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 the ez2wire kit seems like a good deal. with whatever you go with though try and stay away from the butt connectors and crimps, solder all your connections and use heat shrink tube as its much stronger and looks better also =) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueovalz Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 I used the "It's a Snap" on mine, and liked it. I think it lacks some of the finer details that Painless uses for specific applications, but for my situation, it was perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mull Posted July 7, 2006 Author Share Posted July 7, 2006 I used the "It's a Snap" on mine, and liked it. I think it lacks some of the finer details that Painless uses for specific applications, but for my situation, it was perfect. Thanks : ) Sounds good enough for me to use then : ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustinOlson Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 I like EZ wiring. Quality is just as good as painless IMO. $115 for a 12 circuit. http://www.ezwiring.com/minitwelve.htm'>http://www.ezwiring.com/minitwelve.htm http://www.ezwiring.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjhines Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 I am a proponent of using the original wiring..... But.... I have rewired projects using junkyard fuse/relay boxes and using various connectors from electronics suppliers... You can purchase a wire assortment from some suppliers or you can raid the local stereo intall shop for a variety of colors in various lengths.... I have been a scrap pile wire scrounger on many occasions.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okimoto Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 A rat ate the original wiring in my Z and made a nest in the heater core. I wouldn't use a painless wiring kit. It's too universal in my opinion. I've installed one before and it works great, but when you have to tie into existing connectors like the windshield wiper, brake lamps, etc... it doesnt seem worth it to me to use their expensive kit. If the kit came with all connectors for the Z wired in, I think it would be worth it... otherwise I would just wire the car myself. Besides, do you really need 18 circuits? Let's say you did. If you're loaded with enough goodies to use all 18, then I'm sure by the time you're done, the harness will be pretty confusing. I'm sure some of them will require relays, be powered on certain ignition positions and not during others, etc. It would be less confusing to wire each circuit by hand so that you can know that each circuit will do their proper function and you can wire relays into it. The good thing about the painless kit was that I really liked the quality of the wire they used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
331CI 280z Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 I'm a Painless Wiring fan. Their stuff is good quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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