big-phil Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 Well I took the plung! I got the relay board, harness, and MS 1 V 3.0. Mister mail man deliverd it today. It looks much smaller than I thought. I've been reading for the past 2 hours. WOW what did I get myself into? I have got to give a friend in FT. Worth a call who has tuned his. So he can tell me what I need to download. I also orderd a Pallnet fuel rail for my Supra 440cc injectors. Anyway There will be a video when she's done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KTM-EXC Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 congradulations, cant wait to see the next video Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rztmartini Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 you and me are at the same stage (regarding the MS, my engine is still not together!) let us (me) know what you do...im confused also! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olie05 Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 do you have a wideband o2 sensor? It GREATLY shortens tuning time. If you need help I have a map for a turbo 280z i've been working on that runs 440cc injectors. This is on a car that runs a wideband. Should get you fired up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlderThanMe Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 Awesome Phil!!! Here comes high boost!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobythevan Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 I'll second the wideband computer and sensor. With it I was able to install MSnS_Extra in the talon and then tune in 30 minutes of driving covering all load points in the VE map. I am still running that same tune 11K miles later and have been running at 18psi. AFR's are steady where I want them and I couldn't even imagine running 18psi without a wideband or pyrometer or local shop tuning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big-phil Posted November 30, 2006 Author Share Posted November 30, 2006 should I get one like this? http://www.diyautotune.com/catalog/innovate-standalone-gauge-xd16-p-121.html Or is there a cheaper one I can get? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big-phil Posted November 30, 2006 Author Share Posted November 30, 2006 do you have a wideband o2 sensor? It GREATLY shortens tuning time. If you need help I have a map for a turbo 280z i've been working on that runs 440cc injectors. This is on a car that runs a wideband. Should get you fired up. YES PLEASE!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobythevan Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 this is what I am running for half the price as the one you listed, does not have a gauge for readout, I am using the laptop for that and a $55 gauge I bought with a digital readout. http://www.diyautotune.com/catalog/innovate-digital-wideband-controller-with-sensor-p-41.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big-phil Posted November 30, 2006 Author Share Posted November 30, 2006 so my laptop can be used as the guage for tunning? can I buy a guage at a later date? also, is this how I want to wire my relay board? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Cramer Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 so my laptop can be used as the guage for tunning? can I buy a guage at a later date? also, is this how I want to wire my relay board? I'd say yes to all of the above. I'm running an LC-1 with no gauge (well, actually, there's a cheapo ten-bar gauge in there that burned out) and I watch my AFR readings with MegaTune while tuning. The LC-1 works with a couple different gauges - the XD-16 works with a couple other Innovate products, but you can use a variety of digital or analog gauges with it depending on the look you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olie05 Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 Hey Phil. Here are some screen shots of the map. This car runs MSII so you can't just plug in the *.msq file. The current ve map looks kinda funky cus, well its a work in progress but lets just say the car hauls a** right now, with a few hiccups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rztmartini Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 what do you have on your car? what base fuel pressure do you run? can someone explain how to setup the consants? (i havent powered up MS yet but in messing with Megatune i get all kinds of messages telling me that my settings are all wrong!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
280Zone Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 I also just took the plunge. If this doesn't get my car running I am going to have 2 V8 cars! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olie05 Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 base pressure is 30psi. the car runs an msd ignition box as well. It has a star/quest intercooler and a 300zx watercooled turbo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randy 77zt Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 i have 2.2 ms&s with innovate wide band-i just filled in my ve table values on laptop and the ms runs off the wide band.i used moby's program to get car running.my car uses a cherry hall effect sensor on the flywheel for rpm feed and runs a 81 zxt dizzy and 81 coil/transistor.the ms fires the stock coil.there are magnets drilled and glued into the flywheel.there is a lot of ways to get things done-thats what makes old z's better-you have to fab things yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trippintl0 Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 Waxahachie? Crazy, i'm in Dallas, TX, Oak Cliff area. My 280zx has ms1 v3.0 l28et, pallnet & 440cc supra. I'm running the high-definition MSnS-Extra code. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proxlamus© Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 that is the bumpiest map i've ever seen.. LoL.. bunch of areas with what looks like lean spikes.. so your dumping tons of fuel in a cell.. are your AFR's steady or all over? and whats going on after 180kpa?! suddenly gets SUPER lean.. never plan on runnin more boost? if not.. still tune it to like 150% so you dont go boom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big-phil Posted December 4, 2006 Author Share Posted December 4, 2006 Waxahachie? Crazy, i'm in Dallas, TX, Oak Cliff area. My 280zx has ms1 v3.0 l28et, pallnet & 440cc supra. I'm running the high-definition MSnS-Extra code. Well lets get together!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trippintl0 Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 Sure, that'd be cool. I'll have to wait until I'm finished with exams though, which isn't until Dec.15! We could meet up over the holidays and work on the z some. Shoot me an email or something in a week or two, or i'll email you or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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