Guest Anonymous Posted December 11, 2001 Share Posted December 11, 2001 Trying to decide whether to buy Eibachs or coilovers. I want to lower my Z yet maintain a good ride with better cornering. Would I be best served by buying a set of Eibach progressive rate springs for $240. or should I go the coilover route for $400. +? Maybe an eisier question would be: Why are some dissatisfied with the progressive rate Eibachs that they decide they need to go coilovers? Is it for lowering purposes or tire clearance issues? Or maybe the Eibachs aren't stiff enough? Appreciate input from you guys as I don't want to spend money on something that I really don't need but I also don't want to spend more money by changing springs twice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fl327 Posted December 11, 2001 Share Posted December 11, 2001 do both, adjustability and strength, playa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest scca Posted December 11, 2001 Share Posted December 11, 2001 I HAD the progressive eibachs and IMO theyre CRAP...a few others here agree with me.. special for Dec (240z only) $400 shipped for a set of coilovers. any rate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miles Posted December 11, 2001 Share Posted December 11, 2001 Mike I was wondering the same thing. We are on a budget so I am debating using Eibach progressive springs or just go with 175 spring rates with Tokico performance struts front and back and a sway bar on the front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modern Motorsports Ltd Posted December 11, 2001 Share Posted December 11, 2001 -good feedback above, coilover is nice $ spent as if non-coilover doesn't satisfy you (ie. spring rate or height) you're out most dough (I've seen low resale on OE replacement springs) -with coilovers spring swaps(if you don't like first rate tried) aren't so pricey (decent resale or free if you exchange very shortly) and are easier to swap if ever needed (ie. no compressors needed) -and odds are less that you'd have to swap all 4 corners with coilovers if needs differ compared to OEM style where you either accept the set of 4 or yank 'em all out -I've got 240 stuff in stock as well, don't sweat the cost of switching spring rates with coilovers if you don't like the spring rate you try initially. I/we (Modern Motorsports) can always exchange your springs if you want a different spring rate for minimal cost (basically shipping). You didn't mention what struts you're running? You'll need a decent strut to work well with the springs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikelly Posted December 13, 2001 Share Posted December 13, 2001 Lets also remember that you really do gain a lot by going with coil overs...ride height adjustability is nice, but you can also use scales and REALLY set a car up properly to get 4 corner balancing, plus swapping out for different srping rates is nice... I think progressive rate springs are hit and miss depending on the company, and Eibach normally has a great reputation, but their progresive rate Zcar springs need to be a bit stiffer and the transition coils need to transition a bit sooner. Also, Ross' comments about reselling those is spot on... Mike Kelly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted December 13, 2001 Share Posted December 13, 2001 Thanks all for the replies. I have decided to go with coilovers and it really isn't much more expensive because with coilovers I won't need wheel spacers. My main questions now involve whether to section the struts or not and which strut cartridges to use if I do section. I have read the posts about using rabbit cartridges and Mr2 carts for the front but I need to do more research before I am comfortable with doing the swap. Or maybe I should just dive in!? Anyways, thanks again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest scca Posted December 13, 2001 Share Posted December 13, 2001 you should use tokikos. only shorten IF you are lowering the car a LOT and will run smaller than 16" tires. if its a 280 then definitely shorten the rears to the 240 front + 2" . rabbit inserts are not very stiff and far too short for the street. if you shorten you use MR2 upfront and 240fronts in the rear with a spacer as they are too short for the rear use as they are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted December 14, 2001 Share Posted December 14, 2001 Thanks Mike, Ross, and Jeromio. This seems to be a highly subjective topic. It seems that a perfect suspension for one person is to stiff for another. I have read all the posts and websites and one person likes 350# springs and another 150#. Anyway, after much research and a beer I have a plan. My plan is to use 150-175# springs, lower the car 1.5" and not section the struts. I may be offbase, but the reduced suspension travel shouldn't matter since the car will probably hit the tire before the strut or spring bottoms out. I am going 17x8" wheels with 225/45 tires on all corners. Plus, with the stiffer springs, the suspension shouldn't move much anyway, right? Well, that is my idea at least untill someone sets me straight. Thanks for the help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modern Motorsports Ltd Posted December 14, 2001 Share Posted December 14, 2001 Yup, you'll have a tighter setup. Nice thing with coilovers is they can be installed rather easily so if you decide to make changed later (inserts/sectioning etc) it's not really a step backward in the whole scheme PS I only like my 375lb/in front springs on smooth pavement and/or moving very fast and braking like I'm landing on an aircraft carrier (greatly reduces nose dive) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeromio Posted December 14, 2001 Share Posted December 14, 2001 Man, if the MR2 cart is appreciably stiffer than the Rabbit cart, then I'm glad I got the Rabbit ones. My front, with 150lb springs and GTI Tokico blues, is some kinda crazy stiff IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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