Administrators BRAAP Posted May 17, 2007 Administrators Share Posted May 17, 2007 As in thats the engine we are talking about, there are alot of v6's that would be better then the sho in a z but he asked about the sho not the best. Know what I mean jonas? I know this is going to sound like nit picking, but I don’t mean it that way. I’m just looking after you so you don’t get flamed… There are quite a few people on this forum that will take offense to someone stating that one engine is “best†or “better†than another, even within categories, styles, or types. (I think there is even a rule about that sort of talk on this forum). Just keep in mind that words “best†and “betterâ€, when used in conjunction with power plants on this â€HybridZ†forum is entirely and totally subjective, for any number of reasons, ie. power to weight ratio, exhaust note, packaging reasons, number of valves per HP, etc. . One guys idea of “best†is another guys interpretation of “junk†and vice versa. So as such, even though someone may not like another’s preference of power plant, they generally do not bad mouth that power plant here on Hybrid-Z, especially in a thread dedicated to that particular power plant. Again, I’m not trying to be harsh, just looking after the padawan.. “May the Torque be with you young Padawan…†Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick56289 Posted May 17, 2007 Author Share Posted May 17, 2007 Thanks Braap I know what your saying. I think everyone can agree on these forums that they enjoy a little uniqueness by swapping whatever engine into their Z. And the SHO engine at least has that going for it. That being said I answered my own question about the automatic transmission and the Sho engine with a little searching on the SHO forum. It turns out you can use any auto tranny that came on a 3.0l Vulcan engine. But of course that will weigh a lot more than a t5. So I guess it will just depend on availability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.I.jonas Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 Know what I mean jonas? Sorry it seems so easy to tell what you were trying to type now,but the other day i was just staring at the words(or lack of) going wtf!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randy 77zt Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 being a ford tech-sho was a killer engine.the rumors at ford tech schools were that the engine could run to 9 or 10,000 rpm no problem.my machinist has 1 in some kind of salt flat car making 500+ hp with lot of mods and a holley 1050 carb.the trans you needed was from a v6 aerostar-very rare van with 5 speed and v6.some of the newer rangers have 3.0 vulcan engine with a 5 speed but its a mazda trans.newer sho had a 3.4 v8-that would sound good reving up.if i didnt have so much invested in l28et motors i would be looking at something that likes to rev-the l28 doesnt have the cylinder head flow like a 4 valve motor.when you are on a curvy road playing sometimes a corner comes up and you dont have room for another gear-just more revs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick56289 Posted May 20, 2007 Author Share Posted May 20, 2007 Yea ive heard about that salt flat car, n.a too thats crazy. I know that the aerostar bellhousing is hard to find but its not like they arent out there. Also if I cant find one I can always go automatic. My original plan was to make a v8 automatic but then I got taken by the SHO idea and thought I might as well save some weight with a manual if I can find the parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick56289 Posted May 20, 2007 Author Share Posted May 20, 2007 Yea ive heard about that salt flat car, n.a too thats crazy. I know that the aerostar bellhousing is hard to find but its not like they arent out there. Also if I cant find one I can always go automatic. My original plan was to make a v8 automatic but then I got taken by the SHO idea and thought I might as well save some weight with a manual if I can find the parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaggyZ Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 being a ford tech-sho was a killer engine.the rumors at ford tech schools were that the engine could run to 9 or 10,000 rpm no problem.For the short time I had an '89 SHO (5spd), I spent a lot of time on the SHO forums. I think the general concensus is that they could rev to about 8600 RPM and making good power the whole way but the rev limiter was set to ~7200 RPM but the accessories couldn't take it. I crack up every time I think of exploding power steering pumps or a bolt of electricity shooting out the hood when the alternator overloads! FYI - I think there's a video of a turbocharged SHO (yes, the Yami motor) running the quarter mile. Sounded like crap, IMO, and it only ran a low 13 but it was still pretty cool. I think it may have just been cobbled together and thrown out on the track. Who knows what it's doing now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick56289 Posted May 21, 2007 Author Share Posted May 21, 2007 Yea SHOs suck in the quarter mile. Mostly because they are basically Ford Taurus's and they are FWD and FWD sucks. First of all its about impossible to hook up so your 60 foot time is crap. There are 500hp supercharged/turbo SHO's that are barely running 12s or low 13s. Which is why it would be awesome in a Z! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Radioswim Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 Yea SHOs suck in the quarter mile. Mostly because they are basically Ford Taurus's and they are FWD and FWD sucks. First of all its about impossible to hook up so your 60 foot time is crap. There are 500hp supercharged/turbo SHO's that are barely running 12s or low 13s. Which is why it would be awesome in a Z! I Agree, they are terrible at the 1/4 mile drag. I own a 3.2L SHO, moderately modified putting out roughly 290 WHP. The thing runs low 14s. I get my ass kicked by a lot of fast cars. However, at a rolling 30mph race, I can beat a 05 Mustang GT pretty badly (my buddies). Anyways, speaking engine swaps. I have heard rumors of a 3.0L SHO motor into a 89 MR2, twin turbo, looking at roughly 450 WHP, running just under 11 seconds. Ever since I heard of this swap, ive dreamed about owning such a car, Im a huge fan of the MR2s and also a huge fan of the SHO motors (Go yamaha!) Funny thing is, I cant find a single picture/article/WORD on this engine swap. Although i have seen pictures and articles on dropping big ass V8s into the later model MR2s. So it seems possible. Anywho, that SHO-Z sounds like a great Idea. I would rather drop it into a 300ZX though. Peace Z loving people.! And have a great day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Careless Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 I think the SHO engines are pretty darn cool. and I wish rontyler would finish his SHO shopping cart! *shakes fist violently* but besides that, the SHO is a pretty nice powerplant, lots of flow, and probably good for a zee. I don't see why not. I mean, lets face it. If someone put a hayabusa engine with a turbo the size of a watermelon, it'd still be kinda cool in a zee. Even the Jeep 4.0 litre is aight, considering the fact that i've replied to the thread regarding that engine in a semi-negative fashion (heard bad things). But either way, every engine is going to bring the question of "why?" into the equation. And the answer to that equation is "why not?". so get started on that sho-z already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TeamNissan Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 I saw that same project not too long ago. I cant find it again either but it was really nice. I would actually rather drop it in a 300zx as well. Would look mighty perdy in a s30 though no doubt about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
battlemac Posted August 2, 2007 Share Posted August 2, 2007 Any way to get a manual to work with this motor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHO-Z Posted August 2, 2007 Share Posted August 2, 2007 A 5 speed out of a mustang will work with a ford areostar bell housing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
battlemac Posted August 4, 2007 Share Posted August 4, 2007 What year Mustang? The V8 5.0, 4.6 or V6? Will the 6spd out of the Cobra or Mach1 work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHO-Z Posted August 4, 2007 Share Posted August 4, 2007 What year Mustang? The V8 5.0, 4.6 or V6? Will the 6spd out of the Cobra or Mach1 work? Look at this link. It is the best there is on swaping a SHO http://members.cox.net/rdgrauman/Healey.html I started a swap but gave up after all of the hassle I had with the wrecking yard. Got may money back and had a good learning experience. From looking back I would look for a V6 with an alumimum block to keep the weight down. The SHO is heavy with a CI block. It is also very tall and is not a small engine and fills the engine bay. If anyone needs it I can send them the wiring diagram on the engine and a sheet showing what wires are needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfacant Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 I'm about to bring this back from the dead- After months of searching, I have found someone making T5 -> Aerostar bellhousing adapter. There are only 3 left. Here are the pics - They can be purchased here or you can email Tom Dooley Thomas [at] FiberSpec.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TrevJB Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 Could you please send the diagrams to me tbriault@trueproductionservices.com regards Trev:-P Look at this link. It is the best there is on swaping a SHO http://members.cox.net/rdgrauman/Healey.html I started a swap but gave up after all of the hassle I had with the wrecking yard. Got may money back and had a good learning experience. From looking back I would look for a V6 with an alumimum block to keep the weight down. The SHO is heavy with a CI block. It is also very tall and is not a small engine and fills the engine bay. If anyone needs it I can send them the wiring diagram on the engine and a sheet showing what wires are needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest scubb Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 I think it is a great idea just go for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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