wheelman Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 I'm posting some pictures of how I installed my G-Force 5-point harness. There was interest expressed in another thread and rather than hide the photos there we decided it would be better to start a new thread. Purchased the harness from saferacer.com along with 4 1/2" eyebolts and 4 quick release hooks. I ordered the longer 50mm bolts but the 20mm would have worked. The eyebolts replaced the original bolts that held the stock seat belt mechanisms in place, that way I can unhook the harness lap belts and throw the shoulder belts behind the seat if I want to use the stock belts. I don't have a roll bar so I fabbed a harness bar and bolted it to the strut towers. Here are the pictures. When these photos were shot I hadn't installed the crotch strap yet and I'm not sure I will. Wheelman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONZTER Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 Hey, Thanks for the pics, Thats really clean the way the eyebolts hold the factory belts and the harness. I like your harness bar as well. Do you or anybody else know if the shoulder belts could hook to a really solid strut bar?, or is it simply too high. Does anybody know what the correct angle for the shoulder belts should be. Thanks again for the help, I think I now have some work to do Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIM73240Z Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 the sholder straps should be at a slightly raised angle from the top of the seat. that way in the event of the crash, ths straps will not tighten up in a fashion to compress the spine. i know there was a thread about it. search and yee shall find this http://forums.hybridz.org/showthread.php?t=116804&highlight=seat+harness+install the submarine straps i think should be used. it keeps the seat belt in the correct location and if installed and adjusted properly, will not crush the nads. jimbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheelman Posted June 6, 2007 Author Share Posted June 6, 2007 Monzter, If the strut bar is really solid there should be no reason you couldn't use it, in fact the up angle would be better. As far as I know there are no commercial strut bars that would be strong enough though. You could fab one for yourself for about $25.00 max worth of materials. Jim73240Z, Yeah I know I need to install the "submarine" straps, I just haven't figured out how I want to attach them yet. I'm thinking I can attach them to the same crossmember the front of the seats bolt to but then I have to remove the seats. I've just been lazy about it. The instructions that came with the harnesses stated that a down angle no greater than 20 degrees from the seat back to the harness bar was acceptable. I just read the thread posted above and found some contradictory information from the instructions that were in my box. I set my bar up according to those instructions but the angle is only about 10 degrees down so I'm going to leave it where it is. Wheelman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnc Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 Very comprehensive installation instructions (4MB): http://www.schrothracing.com/docs/Competition_Instructions.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartman Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 Thanks for posting up the pic's and info wheelman. Do your stock seat belts have retractors? If not, would the setup work with them as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayAreaZT Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 Nice work wheelman. Monzter,If the strut bar is really solid there should be no reason you couldn't use it, in fact the up angle would be better. As far as I know there are no commercial strut bars that would be strong enough though. You could fab one for yourself for about $25.00 max worth of materials. Would a PDK strut bar be sufficient? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheelman Posted June 6, 2007 Author Share Posted June 6, 2007 BayAreaZT, You should contact PDK with that question. The brackets look pretty beefy but without looking at them closer and the bolts connecting the bar it's impossible to say. Personally I'd shy way from using the strut bar as a harness bar unless it was a single welded piece, but thats just me. Bart, Yes my stock belts have retractors and I don't see any reason why this wouldn't work with non-restactors belts. Wheelman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONZTER Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 So I found this link http://forums.hybridz.org/showthread.php?t=73222&highlight=simpson+belts It has answered many of my questions. I have a friend at Simpson and I am looking at this set up. Any comments. I will only be using this for Autocross, I will retain the stock belts for commuting. http://www.simpsonraceproducts.com/products/product_detail.aspx?cat_id=189&prod_id=7103 Belt in / pull down / polyester webbing Thanks Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
660Z Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 Very comprehensive installation instructions (4MB): http://www.schrothracing.com/docs/Co...structions.pdf This info should be made a sticky! It`s amazing how hard it is to find proper info on installing racing belts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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