PanzerAce Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 So I recently (a week ago), got a 240Z with a 3.0L rebello in it. I was wondering if anyone could point me in a direction to get a manual of some kind for how to tune and maintain the triple mikuni carbs that are on there, since so far I haven't been able to find something, and all the shops basically say that you have to learn by watching someone do it Also, for when I eventually want more power, has any-body ever turbo charged a carb setup on here? If at all possible I want to avoid getting an entirely new head, since I would also have to deal with WAY more electronics if I just went with a P90... thanks guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rztmartini Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 have you talked with Dave at Rebello? Very nice guy, and i dont think anyone knows more about his engines that him . as far as turboing that engine, he would also know where to go, what to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PanzerAce Posted January 18, 2008 Author Share Posted January 18, 2008 yah, he said that he didn't really have a guide for it, and that its one of things you kind of need to watch and learn from someone, but there isn't anyone in the area AFAIK. I'll give a shop I know tomorrow to see if they know anyone that is good with mikunis in the area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savageskaterkid Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 look a few threads down for the HKS plenum post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PanzerAce Posted January 19, 2008 Author Share Posted January 19, 2008 look a few threads down for the HKS plenum post. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeiss150 Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 Funny... A week or so ago a newbie posted about building a 3.0 turbo and he got his a$$ handed to him. I've always wondered how much of a pain in the butt a tripple turbo setup would be. I read corky's book and it seemed to me like he thought the "tripple webber" way of turboing an L28 was the not the most efficient way of boosting an L28. Don't get me wrong I'm not poo pooing the Idea, More like I'm just wondering what the appeal is. thanks, Matt- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PanzerAce Posted January 20, 2008 Author Share Posted January 20, 2008 Well, the appeal (to me), is: 1) Being different. Sure, its not like you see 3Ls with P90 heads and turbos very often, let alone 240s at all in the central valley that are actually on the road, but it is different from the norm. 2) Different kind of labor that has to be done: Instead of having to pull the entire head assembly, AND do all the piping, so far it seems like this setup would mostly just need the piping redone. 3) My current setup was built by rebello, and probably is worth more than I paid for the car when you include labor, so if at all possible I would like to keep it the way it is (mostly). Sure, there are some things that will make it more difficult to do than a straight head swap etc, but there are other things that matter to me (like keeping computers as far away from my engine as possible). *shrugs*, thats just me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbesheer Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 I was reading my "how to modify engine and chassis for your 510 and 240Z" and I saw some turbo kit that uses a single SU carb on the L6. I'll go look it up to see what turbo kit so maybe some more information can be obtained. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeiss150 Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 thanks for the answers Panzerace, It sounds like you have a P90 head on your motor already so there would be no need for a head swap if you went with FI. I hear you with the computer... I don't really want to tackle the computer problems but I figure it would be easier and cheeper than the tripple problems. Nbesheer.... If it was a single SU turbo blow through then it would prob. be a V12 jag SU... just a guess. Matt- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PanzerAce Posted January 21, 2008 Author Share Posted January 21, 2008 thanks for the answers Panzerace, It sounds like you have a P90 head on your motor already so there would be no need for a head swap if you went with FI. I hear you with the computer... I don't really want to tackle the computer problems but I figure it would be easier and cheeper than the tripple problems. Nbesheer.... If it was a single SU turbo blow through then it would prob. be a V12 jag SU... just a guess. Matt- sorry, should have been more clear: I DON'T have a P90 head (AFAIK). Point 1 was more like: 240Zs aren't that common in the central valley of CA anyway, but I also don't want it to be like other people's that just put P90 heads on when they want a turbo kit. Actually, thats one more thing I should check out when I fix the throttle cable is what head I actually have Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlderThanMe Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 People put on a P90 not becuse of popularity, but because of detonation resistance and the larger chamber to lower the CR. Do you know the specific specs on the motor? Is it a small bore stroker or a large bore with the L28 crank? (guessing the second) With some KA24-spec pistons that have a 2.8cc dish you could achieve a 7.7:1 CR with P90 head. You could do a P79 just to be different or if you can't get a P90...it has the same chamber as the P90 but has small cast-in steel exhaust liners in the head. I'd love to see a blow through old school turbo motor built. You know Rebello made a 3.3 liter... saw it somewhere on the web. Guessing it has a welded stroker crank though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Careless Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 Funny... A week or so ago a newbie posted about building a 3.0 turbo and he got his a$$ handed to him. I've always wondered how much of a pain in the butt a tripple turbo setup would be. I read corky's book and it seemed to me like he thought the "tripple webber" way of turboing an L28 was the not the most efficient way of boosting an L28. Don't get me wrong I'm not poo pooing the Idea, More like I'm just wondering what the appeal is. thanks, Matt- which chapter was that in? I read the book twice and didn't see any L28 references. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PanzerAce Posted January 21, 2008 Author Share Posted January 21, 2008 People put on a P90 not becuse of popularity, but because of detonation resistance and the larger chamber to lower the CR. Do you know the specific specs on the motor? Is it a small bore stroker or a large bore with the L28 crank? (guessing the second) With some KA24-spec pistons that have a 2.8cc dish you could achieve a 7.7:1 CR with P90 head. You could do a P79 just to be different or if you can't get a P90...it has the same chamber as the P90 but has small cast-in steel exhaust liners in the head. I'd love to see a blow through old school turbo motor built. You know Rebello made a 3.3 liter... saw it somewhere on the web. Guessing it has a welded stroker crank though. Dang, a 3.3? I know they sell 3.2 without the cylinder head, but I didn't know about any 3.3. I'm pretty sure it is a large bore with a L28 crank. I have to call Rebello tomorrow anyway about some stuff, I'll see if I can find out about this 3.3 you are talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeiss150 Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 Hey careless... Its been a while since I read corky's book but... I don't think he specificly refered to the L28 but there was a section about carb'd turbos and there is a picture of an L28 with tripples and a blow through system, so I assume he sort of had that system in mind while he wrote that section ( a total assumption on my part). I hope that helps Matt- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlderThanMe Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 Dang, a 3.3? I know they sell 3.2 without the cylinder head, but I didn't know about any 3.3. Yeah... I saw it on a car for sale somewhere. Don't remember where. There is a "legit" way to make a 3.3 out of USDM parts without crankshaft welding. You'd still have 3mm+ cylinder walls too but lots of block work. I'm guessing that the 3.3 was experimental and may have required a LOT of work. The one Rebello 3.2/tripple weber I heard (belonged to GNOSEZ) sounded absolutely wicked. WOT through first and part of second gear in Fontana village... it gave me happy feelings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PanzerAce Posted January 21, 2008 Author Share Posted January 21, 2008 I get a happy feeling every time I bury the throttle on my Rebello 3.0L, I can't wait till I have the chance to do it with an extra .2 liters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PanzerAce Posted January 21, 2008 Author Share Posted January 21, 2008 Hey careless... Its been a while since I read corky's book but... I don't think he specificly refered to the L28 but there was a section about carb'd turbos and there is a picture of an L28 with tripples and a blow through system, so I assume he sort of had that system in mind while he wrote that section ( a total assumption on my part). I hope that helps Matt- any chance you could scan that section? Or let me know what the ISBN number is? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeiss150 Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 Panzerace.... I don't know the ISBN # but you can get the book on amazon. search for Corky Bell, the name of the book is maximum boost, Its really great info. I had to read it twice just to understand it. I was able to check it out of my local library. Matt- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlderThanMe Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 Maximum boost: ISBN: 0-8376-0160-6 Pages 102 and 103 for draw through and blow through carb setupson a L6. Also note turbo S30Z (280z?)on page 52(misprinted as a 280zx) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PanzerAce Posted January 21, 2008 Author Share Posted January 21, 2008 my local libraries don't have it it looks like. Eh, I'll be needing it in the future anyway, so I might as well buy it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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