Mobious5 Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 mayby someone could help me out with some advice. i have an NA 82 that i was thinking about boosting but affraid of doing so with stock internals even though i heard it was possible, but with low boost. soo i was thinking about slapping some headers on it maybe to gain alittle power. My question is, is it true i could put a stock turbo, manifold, and oil pump and be fine under low boost. if i went the turbo route? Or if i went the header path, what headers would sound best? and what is the largest size piping should be ran with an NA car? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roger.svoboda Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 oil pump the same. need fuel pump, ecu, injectors, pistons, exhaust, dizzy just to name a few. If you can't find a donor car or buy a turbo then do a few things that help out. Better intake system (k&n filter). Larger exhaust, headers, free flow muffler. My 83 got a few more ponies with that. Do a complete check and tune up. Timing, plugs, new ignition wires stuff like that. Take all the connectors apart in the engine compartment and clean them well. Drop some weight there are things you can do without radically altering the vehicle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Challenger Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 He wouldnt need turbo pistons depending on what he means by "low boost". I say do it right the first time, youll be much happier with it in the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad-ManQ45 Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 YOu can easily install a turbo (will require a Turbo oilpan too) with the stock internals. If I were to do this I would utilize and aftermarket ECU (which I am going to utilize on my '83 ZXT) in order to have better reliability and driveability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mobious5 Posted February 16, 2009 Author Share Posted February 16, 2009 guess this means turbo would be a better rout than just headers right haha would doing it right mean putting turbo pistons and valves in before boosting? wouldnt have to wory about the dizzy? which brings me to ask this, does anyone no why, between the to l28 model engines, (turbo an NA) is alot of the this different? Like the turbo dizzy, turbo oil pump, even turbo fuel pump and coil?? wtf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJLamberson Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 All you need to turbo your car is the search function. "NA to turbo" Turbo conversion" stuff like that, This is the route I went btw, looking back it was pretty simple. Just make sure you get everything you need before you start otherwise your car will be down while you hunt for parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wickedblackiroc Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 whats up justin? i think you should turbo it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woldson Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 If you have the money, get an after market ecu install it and learn it. When you have learned that, then you can turbo charge that na, with far less possiblity of damage. Yes you can turbo charge the na with the na pistons, compression will be higher, then a turbo engine, 7.5ish vs. 8.5ish. Injectors will have to be the frist upgrade if you want to go above 3psi or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mobious5 Posted February 17, 2009 Author Share Posted February 17, 2009 When you guys are talking about aftermarket ECU, are you guys talking about EDIS, Megasquirt, or Wold3D? those type of managment systems or some other stand alone system i could use? Or would just plugin in the ecu from an l28et serfice? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlatBlack Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 EDIS is a Ford ignition system Megaqsuirt is one of the more popular 'stand-alone' ECUs on this site, you can purchase one at http://www.DIYautotune.com, it takes a lot of reading up before installation, be sure you know what you're getting in to. 'Plugging in' a ZXT ECU and doing the stock ZXT EFI swap is doable but not tunable. Oh, and please click the link in Challengers signature for your Turbo swap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mobious5 Posted February 17, 2009 Author Share Posted February 17, 2009 hahaha yea i've already clicked that andd ah it was pretty funny, i pretty much can use the search feature hybridz has for the rest i guess:-) just wish i wouldnt have to go through the whole new ems thing before turboing! thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roger.svoboda Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 disregard all that is said about how easy it is. Even for experienced wrench there are a lot of things to plan on and money to spend. Sure you can do all those things but how much patience do you have to see the project through. This isn't a couple of weekends it is many days of tedious time consuming work. As I said at first if you find a donor turbo car then the process is fairly straight forward which will give you a running vehicle. you can then experiment with aftermarket electronics, boost controllers and etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mobious5 Posted February 17, 2009 Author Share Posted February 17, 2009 geeze all this just to tubo an NA car. Dosent seem like much or to hard to do. just take time and i guess all the materials an tools. trying to find a decent running turbo engine around here (carolinas) is pretty difficult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlatBlack Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Go here http://forums.hybridz.org/forumdisplay.php?f=70 and read all the stickies, its a good place to start. And you *can* do stock EFI, here is a write up about it. Once again though make sure you know what you're getting into, there were many random parts I didn't think about when I started collecting them for my turbo 'build.' http://forums.hybridz.org/showthread.php?t=99620 I think reading that gave me a better understanding of what goes on with the turbo wiring. Don't give up about finding a ZXT, they'll show up eventually. About a month ago I saw two go for sale for really cheap in the same town a couple of hours away from me. Just be patient. [i waited a year until I found my first Z car]. Have fun reading! *edit* I also found this thread very helpful - he's doing the same thing we are talking about - a Turbo Flat Top F54/P79. He's not done yet but he's got great pictures of the tapped oil pan, etc. http://forums.hybridz.org/showthread.php?t=127833 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mobious5 Posted February 17, 2009 Author Share Posted February 17, 2009 dude flatblack, where the heck did you find those threads man, sooo informative, that last one is Exactly what i needed. thanks bro you guys are right, even though it probly took hours to find those, the search works. and i though i was the only one trying to do this... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlatBlack Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Hold on let me find you a couple more threads http://forums.hybridz.org/announcement.php?f=93&a=2 Please actually read it, I know its long but if we try to abide by the rules it keeps the site professional and then one day you can pass on the knowledge to someone else And yes I am excited about my turbo swap, I probably couldn't do it without information from this site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJLamberson Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 To get it up and running using zxt EFI is the easiest, To have the most flexibility standalone is your only option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woldson Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Yes, ALOT more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mobious5 Posted February 19, 2009 Author Share Posted February 19, 2009 you guys have been around the block a couple times i see, good information, it would make sense doing standalone before boosting rather than zxt ecu and boosting. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Yeti's280zxt Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 I put an 82 Turbo motor into my 1980 and tried to adapt the stock harness and gave up. I then went to MSII and that was much easier to install and get started/running! I entered in some basic info I got off this site into MSII and it started on my first try! I may have gotten lucky but when I look back it was so much easier to install MS than people make it out to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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