LanceVance Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 (edited) Not sure if this will help, but you might read THIS thread. Edited June 12, 2013 by LanceVance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metro Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Going back a few posts, I hope you didn't just plug in the numbers I posted for my wheel. They would only work if your missing tooth was exactly the same as my wheel (highly unlikely). MS will pick up the RPM no problem since you told it's a 30-1 wheel (30 teeth, gap -1) but the spark will be all crazy because the coil firing positions are wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaTTSuN Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 (edited) I dialed in my tooth seperation but still no dice I think its in the config of the coils to plugs thanks Lancevance: that helped for sure Been swamped at work this week so may give her some love this weekend I also might buy an FR-S tomorrow, it may or may not be related to my car troubles haha Edited June 14, 2013 by MaTTSuN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LanceVance Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 (edited) I also might buy an FR-S tomorrow, it may or may not be related to my car troubles haha Glad it helped, seemed appropriate for your troubles. If you do get an FR-S post some seat measurements on the SEAT SWAP LIST page. Edited June 14, 2013 by LanceVance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loy Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 Which megasquirt are you running? You mentioned 2 earlier in this thread. What firmware? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metro Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Let's recap, what is your current problem? Also post your wheel setup so we can double check it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LanceVance Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 MaTTSuN, any progress or updates?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaTTSuN Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 going to work on the Z today I did buy an FR-S so been enjoying that the last couple weeks Hopefully i can get this baby running right after taking some time off it and getting some fresh eyes back on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loy Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 Sounds good, Please take a moment to answer the questions above so we might be able to help better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaTTSuN Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 (edited) Ok let me try to get this all in one post, I have some time tonight to go through all my notes attached is a picture of my last routing of my coils to plug set up also i attached how i wired the coil to relay board and coil drivers to the MS pcb the missing tooth @ TDC is 18 Last i tried i had my trigger settings at A Pos 13 Return 17 B Pos 23 Return 27 C Pos 3 Return 7 I tried moving them around in incriments of one but could not find the right pattern The version of my MS is MSnS-Extra Format 029q any ideas guys? Sorry for taking so long the FR-S is a nice little car so havent been thinking about the datsun much. I am excited to feel real power again with all the upgrades i just did Edited July 11, 2013 by MaTTSuN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metro Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 (edited) Your wheel settings look fine, but your coil wiring is still screwy. The coils should be paired 1+6, 2+5, 3+4. It looks like you have plug wires on 1+4, 2+6, 3+5. I modified DIY's picture for that coil and how yours is mounted upside down in your car, it should look like this: That's front to back ABC. Edited July 11, 2013 by Metro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaTTSuN Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Your wheel settings look fine, but your coil wiring is still screwy. The coils should be paired 1+6, 2+5, 3+4. It looks like you have plug wires on 1+4, 2+6, 3+5. I modified DIY's picture for that coil and how yours is mounted upside down in your car, it should look like this: coil.png That's front to back ABC. cool, ill try that coil set up when i get home just to be on the same page, this is correct right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metro Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 cool, ill try that coil set up when i get home just to be on the same page, this is correct right? COILrouting.png Yeah just make sure the 4pin plug is wired like my picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaTTSuN Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 so i tried to start it with the same resault It looks like i already had the plug wire routed the right way A 1,6 B 2,5 C 3,4 Here are some pics of my relay board wiring to coil the green wire is switched power Does this look right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metro Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 I don't use a relay board, I thought the Sx outputs were for MS2? I put the pin numbers on the image I posted for MS1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaTTSuN Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 I did a little research when i did the swap and this is what i found, These were the outputs that matched to the DIY write up, maybe im off by one.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metro Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 On second thought, I might be leading you astray here. My ignitors aren't mounted on the MS board, they're inside a GM DIS coilpack where the GM ignitors used to be. MS just outputs a spark logic signal, not the coil grounds. I guess how you wire the output of your ignitors is up to you, if they're on SP2, 3, 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaTTSuN Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Im going through my notes right now, Looks like everything is wired up right Relay output MS pin out S1==============25 S2==============27 S3==============29 S4==============31 S5==============36 If everything is right here then ill have to double/triple check my missing tooth to TDC but im pretty sure thats on as well Then back to the Trigger settings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaTTSuN Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 lookig even closer haha looks like my wiring is wrong Relay Board to coils wires Current Correct S3 RED S5 RED S4 BLUE S3 BLUE S5 YELLOW S4 YELLOW Looks like i messed up in my notes pairing it all together on paper Ill try it when i get home... hope she fires Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaTTSuN Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 well i swapped the wires and it seamed to be close, just sounds like the timing is off but it still does not run I think its all settings in MS now Ive only had small amounts of time to get tests in but ill look at the trigger wheel again and dive into the trigger settings again it may be time for a degree wheel, Once i get it set ill make a summery of all my settings and hook ups Silver lining is that the wideband seams to have stop having error8 Disconnecting the battery for a few weeks must have re-set it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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