SR240Z Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 Yes this is for real! We are in the midst of building the roll cage for our 350z to Formula D rule standards. The car is going to primarily be a competition drift car which I (Alex) will be driving. I will be documenting progress on http://www.AlexVillabrille.com as well as through this thread. I was able to get some semi-sponsorships to help with the build from JustDriven.com, M1 Autosports, and Dynamic Autosports. Attached are some teaser shots for your viewing pleasure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehelix112 Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 Why a SR20DET? Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruggedbert Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 Same HP if not more than the VQ without all the weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
240hoke Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 Very cool project, cant wait to see the outcome. Last time I talked with Alex, he said they were doing it because its what they know and what they have...in addition to being about 1000 times easier to work on in the car....which I completely understand. However I have to disagree with ruggedbert. The sr20 can make more power then what vq? Sure a built Sr can make more then a stock vq...a B18 can make more then a LS1. But build em both, and then whats yer result? The vq will always make more torque, will always have more midrange, and I would argue the potential to make more power....and depending on the turbo setup the weight difference isnt going to be that substantial...I have a feeling I know where the VQ is going anyway..... BTW alex whats the weight comparo between the fully loaded SR20 (turbo, intercooler, piping etc) compared to the NA vq? Just curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeleriousZ Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 very interesting swap.. on any other site i think you would get flamed into oblivion for this.. but seeing your previous work I'll take your word for your reasoning lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR240Z Posted May 8, 2009 Author Share Posted May 8, 2009 Were doing the sr20det because we already have a completely built and proven drivetrain from our 240z. The setup has never ceased to amaze us and will make the engine bay relatively easy to work on in between events and maintenance. Austin: Im not sure on the weight differences since we dont have an engine hoist scale but the VQ is a very stout motor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkumaNoZeta Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 I'd like to see wieght figures of the car after its built. Theres a 350Z in a DSport magazine I had that said they were able to lighten it to around 2500 lbs if I remember right. I don't remember if it still had the VQ or whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR240Z Posted May 8, 2009 Author Share Posted May 8, 2009 Chris Forsberg got his SR20 demo 350z down to 2380lbs and his VK56 car is in the sub 2500lb region. Dynamic Autosports/Hankook 350z with a single turbo VQ is weighing in at about 2600lbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkumaNoZeta Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 And I always thought of them as heavy pigs because they came from the factory at what? 3300lbs? When I looked at the picture of the SR in your engine bay my jaw dropped because I couldn't believe how much extra room there was in there, I really like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EMWHYR0HEN Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 Cool project. Good luck Alex. I didnt know you had a formula D licence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR240Z Posted May 8, 2009 Author Share Posted May 8, 2009 Thanks for the compliments guys. I don't have my license yet but from a few practice events I've gotten really good feedback from fellow drivers to go out and get my license. As of right now the cage is all tacked in... our roll cage guy just has to make the door bars and then do all the final welding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
240hoke Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 What are you drifting in now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Z Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 that sr looks like it would be very easy to work on as you said, very clean install. How long have you been drifting for if you don't mind me asking? If you good enough to try out for a FD license after only driving a few times then you must be a drift prodigy! can't wait to see some pics of this going sideways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David K Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 I just wanted to let everyone know that Alex stripped down a perfectly good Nismo 350z to make a hybrid drift car. He threw all the stock parts in the trash and scratched the nismo decals off with a razor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR240Z Posted May 9, 2009 Author Share Posted May 9, 2009 Austin: Right now I've been practicing in a Nismo R-tune 350z until i can get my car ready for some test and tune runs Young Z: Been drifting for just a few months now.... I just hope i can live up to the people's expectations that are backing me. Dave: Its not perfectly good when it comes automatic!!!!!!!!!!!!! Next time we go to the track you have to come out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkumaNoZeta Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 So what are you gonna do with the VQ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR240Z Posted May 9, 2009 Author Share Posted May 9, 2009 Grim: Well the VQ is just sitting in the corner of the shop (Complete engine with all accessories, complete harness, ignition and ECU... No trans) I want to sell it but prices for VQs have gone way down and its not even worth it really. It only has 16,700 miles. Most of the cage is all tacked in... tomorrow just need to do the door bars and finish all the final welding. Here is the progress from today attached: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruggedbert Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 I was comparing a stock VQ to a built SR20det. I guess its not a fair comparison. I don't have any numbers on hand, but I'm willing to bet that a sr20det with all turbo components is going to be lighter than a turboed VQ setup! Very cool project, cant wait to see the outcome. Last time I talked with Alex, he said they were doing it because its what they know and what they have...in addition to being about 1000 times easier to work on in the car....which I completely understand. However I have to disagree with ruggedbert. The sr20 can make more power then what vq? Sure a built Sr can make more then a stock vq...a B18 can make more then a LS1. But build em both, and then whats yer result? The vq will always make more torque, will always have more midrange, and I would argue the potential to make more power....and depending on the turbo setup the weight difference isnt going to be that substantial...I have a feeling I know where the VQ is going anyway..... BTW alex whats the weight comparo between the fully loaded SR20 (turbo, intercooler, piping etc) compared to the NA vq? Just curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David K Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 Dave: Next time we go to the track you have to come out! Alex you know im your man for crew and photo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR240Z Posted May 9, 2009 Author Share Posted May 9, 2009 Cage is almost completely finished... The front gussets were done, entire cage is completely welded and ready to rock except for the door bars. Doors bars are already made and ready to be tacked on and welded but we ran out of gas today Here is today's updates: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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