yetterben Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 Anyone building these around these parts. need one asap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkgts1 Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 Anyone building these around these parts. need one asap. Do you mean in your area or on this board? I know there are some inexpensive aluminum ones on ebay. A member here bought one and said he was satisfied with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yetterben Posted March 21, 2010 Author Share Posted March 21, 2010 (edited) On the forum. I need a cylinder with a mount on the back. Its going in the engine bay. all the ones on ebay are flat mount on the trunk or floor. Also i need barb fittings not an fittings. Edited March 21, 2010 by yetterben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yetterben Posted March 21, 2010 Author Share Posted March 21, 2010 On the forum. I need a cylinder with a mount on the back. Its going in the engine bay. all the ones on ebay are flat mount on the trunk or floor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mack z Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 Anyone building these around these parts. need one asap. do you need one with AN fittings? what size do you need? one or two pump set up ? race car or street car? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yetterben Posted March 21, 2010 Author Share Posted March 21, 2010 One pump street/autocross car. Barb fittings are prefred. .5 gallon is good. Mounting in engine bay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e_racer1999 Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 I am actually starting a company making surge tanks! But a recent car accident has kept me from manufacturing any . One of the styles I am making is perfect for your application, as well. What size barb fittings are you going to be using? I can probably fab one up for you, although it may be mild steel since I haven't hired a TIG welder yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSM Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 Can you explain to me why you need to carry 5 gallons around your engine bay for street or autocross use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dtsnlvrs Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 Can you explain to me why you need to carry 5 gallons around your engine bay for street or autocross use? I believe ther is a decimal point before that 5, therfore he would be toting 1/2 gallon in the engine bay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSM Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 Oh gosh, my bad. Really I can read! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mack z Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 I got hold of a 260z to use for mock up for a serge tank to fit on one side in the engine bay . I will have some time this week to do one .I will post pics when i do this Mack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mack z Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 One pump street/autocross car. Barb fittings are prefred. .5 gallon is good. Mounting in engine bay. We had time today to mack a serge tank today here some pics .the under side was rolled on a English wheel to fit the fender This to fit 1/2 a gallon of fuel and two pumps 2x8 AN 3x6 AN 0.90 ali sheet let me know what you think this is just to show you where you can fit a serge tank in a 240-260 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mack z Posted March 28, 2010 Share Posted March 28, 2010 On the forum. I need a cylinder with a mount on the back. Its going in the engine bay. all the ones on ebay are flat mount on the trunk or floor. I mocked one up that will fit in the engine bay .It can be set up to use barb fittings .It holds about 1/2 a gallon of fuel . The pics are just to show that it can be fitted under the hood with out taking up a lot of space .we might send it out to polish it up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMortensen Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 (edited) 1/2 gallon seems very very large to me. Make it tall and skinny and you could probably cut that down by a factor of 2 or 3 (or more) and not have starvation problems. If you do it right the surge tank should be packed full of fuel by the low pressure pump anyway. As an example, how long does it take the high pressure low volume FI to pump 20 oz of fuel? How long does it take a low pressure high volume pump to fill a 20 oz reservoir. Seems to me if the FI pump pumps slower than the carb pump, you really shouldn't be running the surge tank dry. Doubly so because there is a restrictor in the FI system and none in the surge tank system. This carb pump puts out just over double what the Walbro 255 does: http://www.summitrac...arts/SUM-G3136/ Seems to me also that the larger the surge tank is the more potentially dangerous it is. It is after all a reservoir full of gasoline, and if I were picking I'd rather the small reservoir of gasoline be punctured in an accident. Disclaimer: these are the musings of someone who has not used a surge tank. I always figured the float bowls in the carbs were surge tank enough for me, and so far that idea hasn't failed me. Edited March 30, 2010 by JMortensen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djbit Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 Eventually I have to get one. I was actually looking into something like this: http://bcbroncos.com/store/product_info.php?cPath=131_108&products_id=119 I would shoot for 1 to 1.5 qts, specially, if it's getting mounted in the engine bay. How much are you looking to price those? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mack z Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 this surge tank was for a z car that has a RB26 looking to make 700-1000 HP plus with two Bosch fuel pumps and 1000-1600cc injectors not for carbs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMortensen Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 this surge tank was for a z car that has a RB26 looking to make 700-1000 HP plus with two Bosch fuel pumps and 1000-1600cc injectors not for carbs 1600 cc injectors makes a difference. If you figure that one 10 second WOT blast down the drag strip is going to pump out about a liter to 1.6 liters of fuel with those injectors going full bore, maybe the size makes a bit more sense, but you're still taking a pretty big risk having that much fuel out of the cell IMO. Why not get a cell with an internal surge tank if it needs to be that big? I know bjhines bought one from Fuel Safe and clifton actually made his own. Looks like you have the skills to do it that way. Just seems like nearly 1/2 gallon of fuel is a lot to be carting around under the hood. That's potentially a fairly large fireball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mack z Posted April 1, 2010 Share Posted April 1, 2010 If you take a look at lots of the car running in the street 10.5 class you will see fuel sells under the hood of the car and in some of the sports compact's to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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