Dunlop Posted November 19, 2010 Share Posted November 19, 2010 I cant seem to find a flywheel that will work for my setup. Can any guys with t56's chime in and tell me what one to buy? Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOTHALOSISM Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 Sent ya a PM with a good site to help you out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunlop Posted November 21, 2010 Author Share Posted November 21, 2010 (edited) This is what i got... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290501751780&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWNX%3AIT So when it gets resurfaced should i have them balance the clutch and flywheel together??? Also should it be balanced to zero? Edited November 21, 2010 by Dunlop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunlop Posted December 6, 2010 Author Share Posted December 6, 2010 That did not work! Can someone please help me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bodie Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 what motor are you running? externally balance or internally? and what clutch and t56 are you using? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redneck1545 Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 I Bought the fidanza aluminum flywheel. with stock clutch (we'll see how long that lasts) I have an older (pre-86) two piece rear main seal i plan on mating to a t-56 and there is a special "conversion" flywheel you have to buy for that setup. Ram and centerforce also make flywheels that work but they are around 25-30 lbs and made from steel for $400. The fidanza is made from billet aluminum with a replaceble steel face for $425.00 and weighs in the 15lbs range. well worth the 25 bucks if you ask me. Course i lucked out and bought mine off a craigslist as for $125.00. guy was selling a lt1 clutch with pressure plate...well that was all bolted to "something" and the something happened to be a fidanza flywheel that just so happened to be the exact flywheel i needed! needless to say I was very happy to pay the money i did for it! PM me if you have any questions...I can look up part numbers for u but ure looking at $400+ if your mating it to a pre-86 block. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gvincent Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Do a search for this, it has been covered several times before, I was going to do a T56 from and LT1 to a 400SBC two piece before so I know there is a thread on this and several others already, I think I remember a McCleod balanced flywheel with the LT1 pressure plate and clutch. Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunlop Posted December 23, 2010 Author Share Posted December 23, 2010 Do a search for this, it has been covered several times before, I was going to do a T56 from and LT1 to a 400SBC two piece before so I know there is a thread on this and several others already, I think I remember a McCleod balanced flywheel with the LT1 pressure plate and clutch. Greg Yea the McCleod flywheel didnt work. I have tryed searching ARG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redneck1545 Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 ask and u shall receive... http://forums.hybridz.org/index.php/topic/51254-sbc-and-the-t56-which-one/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONGO510 Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 I used an old Weber Aluminum flywheel(standard old school aftermarket part), along with a LS1 bell housing. I had to fabricate a new pilot bushing that extended farther to the rear. a Hydraulic T.O. brg was used as well as a 3/4"(?) spacer between the bell housing and the trany. Standard SBC clutch disc and PP were used. FWIW Mongo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gvincent Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 The McCleod you have is for a 86 and up one piece main, there are ones for Gen 1 two piece available for LT1 type clutches as well both zero balance and balance for gen 1 blocks, I know because I have talked to several people at shows that are running gen 1 383 strokers with new cranks with no balance and 400 SBC cranks that need the external balance on both ends, Balancer and flywheel. Both 1 piece and 2 piece flywheels for an LT1 clutch are available from McCleod and Centerforce and several others in zero balance or Balanced form Besides my old thread that Redneck found there have been some even older and newer threads on this, I think the CamaroSS forum had some info as well. Here are a few places I had in my Archives while I was researching this, I don't remember what each had to offer right now but If I kept them then they were useful: http://www.5speedtransmissions.com/t56_early_gm.html http://forums.hybridz.org/showthread.php?t=95691&highlight=%22T56+mating+SBC%22 http://forums.hybridz.org/index.php?showtopic=49088 http://keislerauto.com/gm/transmissions/bellhousing.asp http://www.t56kit.com/FAQ/#T56_INSTALL_FAQ_SECTION http://www.standardtransmission.com/ http://www.weirhotrodproducts.com/id2.html http://www.fortesparts.com/ http://advanceadapters.com/ http://www.iedls.com/asp/admin/getFile.asp?RID=10&TID=28&FN=PDF http://www.drivetrain.com/parts_catalog/drivetrain/driveline_angles_and_phasing_problems.html http://ddperformance.com/ Good Luck FYI I am still looking for the right 400 SBC for my Z car as long as I can sell both of my LT1 motors, computer, software, harness, go fast goodies etc. It is not high on my list right now because I am enjoying the stock LT1 and the good highway mileage. Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunlop Posted January 1, 2011 Author Share Posted January 1, 2011 The McCleod you have is for a 86 and up one piece main, there are ones for Gen 1 two piece available for LT1 type clutches as well both zero balance and balance for gen 1 blocks, I know because I have talked to several people at shows that are running gen 1 383 strokers with new cranks with no balance and 400 SBC cranks that need the external balance on both ends, Balancer and flywheel. Both 1 piece and 2 piece flywheels for an LT1 clutch are available from McCleod and Centerforce and several others in zero balance or Balanced form Besides my old thread that Redneck found there have been some even older and newer threads on this, I think the CamaroSS forum had some info as well. Here are a few places I had in my Archives while I was researching this, I don't remember what each had to offer right now but If I kept them then they were useful: http://www.5speedtransmissions.com/t56_early_gm.html http://forums.hybridz.org/showthread.php?t=95691&highlight=%22T56+mating+SBC%22 http://forums.hybridz.org/index.php?showtopic=49088 http://keislerauto.com/gm/transmissions/bellhousing.asp http://www.t56kit.com/FAQ/#T56_INSTALL_FAQ_SECTION http://www.standardtransmission.com/ http://www.weirhotrodproducts.com/id2.html http://www.fortesparts.com/ http://advanceadapters.com/ http://www.iedls.com/asp/admin/getFile.asp?RID=10&TID=28&FN=PDF http://www.drivetrain.com/parts_catalog/drivetrain/driveline_angles_and_phasing_problems.html http://ddperformance.com/ Good Luck FYI I am still looking for the right 400 SBC for my Z car as long as I can sell both of my LT1 motors, computer, software, harness, go fast goodies etc. It is not high on my list right now because I am enjoying the stock LT1 and the good highway mileage. Greg Thank you so much!!! i am set!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunlop Posted January 1, 2011 Author Share Posted January 1, 2011 (edited) Now i just need to figrue something out for the speedo. Edited January 1, 2011 by Dunlop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsicard Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 Now i just need to figrue something out for the speedo. What is the issue with the Speedo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunlop Posted January 3, 2011 Author Share Posted January 3, 2011 What is the issue with the Speedo? As far as i know the t56 uses an electric signal and the stock tac doesnt. I could be wrong i havnt looked into it yet, just waiting to get everything balanced now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsicard Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 As far as i know the t56 uses an electric signal and the stock tac doesnt. I could be wrong i havnt looked into it yet, just waiting to get everything balanced now. Dunlop: Likely you are very correct. I also have a T56 that came from a 93-97 camaro/firebird and it has an electronic pulse output for the speedometer. It is only recently that new T56 are manufactured with either electronic or mechanical speedo cable output. The latter requires proper speedo gears to match up with the mechanical speedo in the vehicle. The modern electronic speedos are much easier to interface to modern custom speedos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gvincent Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 I opted for the Auto Meter electric speedo instead of one of the Cable-X boxes, although with the electric speedo it is easier to calibrate for tire/wheels size. Drawback...coming up with a solution for the turn signals and hi-beam indicator. It's been done both ways here on this forum, oh and a third I think is having JTR modify your T56 tail piece for a mechanical set-up. Glad I could help with the flywheel issue. Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunlop Posted January 16, 2011 Author Share Posted January 16, 2011 Also what kind of clutches do you have? I am confused on what throw out bearing to have. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gvincent Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 I am running the stock GM clutch, pressure plate and throw out bearing, I had the pressure plate cleaned and surfaced and bought a new GM clutch disc for the 95 Camaro/Firebird, there are a lot of articles on the various "Stages" of clutches and pressure plates that cost tons of money but ti turns out the T56/LT1ressure plate is made by only 2 companies and is the exact same unit you can but from AutoZone or Advanced Auto for much less money, The fancy clutch companies just paint or powder coat the exact same pressure plate with a nice shiny bright color and then charge you big bucks for the same pressure plate. Most smart guys on those Camaro forums buy the AutoZone pressure plate kit and keep or toss the clutch disc that comes in the kit and just buy an upgraded disc. I forget which F body forum it was but most have very extensive discussions on this stage kit or that stage kit and if you dig through all the bullshit you will find the guys that have discovered this little secret on the pressure plates. I might of saved a link to this topic, as I usually do save most links that I find worthwhile. I'll search through my Library of links. Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunlop Posted January 21, 2011 Author Share Posted January 21, 2011 Well i am back to square one. My flywheel doesnt work because the clutch i have has a push type throw-out bearing vs a pull type. So now i need to find a new stupid flywheel. Also now i am confused on what clutch to buy now, just the one that was for the 93 firebird that the t56 had???? Please help me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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