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Well, I would really like to just buy a pair of >$300 headers, bolt them on and go with them! If I dont have to modify them or the car I will be very happy!!
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yeah, I have seen those but I dont think they are for me. The guys running them have had to dimple the frame on the passengers side and add a ujoint to the stearing shaft on the drivers! With all that trouble I should be able to fit something full length in! Who knows, you may have to do this will all angle plug block huggers???
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I think that this is the only 2+2 I have ever seen and liked. Whoever did it did a pretty good job. After seeing the prices that some of these cars go for on ebay, I should of just waited and bought one already converted!
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I am just as much of a newbe as you are but if Im not mistaken a hybrid Z has more weight on the rear tires than than the front. I think the weight distribution is something like 49/51?? Actually Im not sure that a hybrid Z would not be considered a mid engine car because the engine is located behind the front sespension.
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Okay guys, I dont think you understand. No one said that I was going to put some huge cam in my car and use the Rhoads lifters as a "crutch". If you are putting any cam in your car to help at all with your top end you are normally loosing a little something down low. Some of you guys act like I trying to get away with something here. I just read about them and thought the looked pretty trick. Since I have searched some other sites and not many people like them.
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Well, what I was hoping for was some better low end drivalbility. Also, I was thinking that this could serve to flatten out the tourque curve a bit. They also dont cost any more than the comp cams lifters.
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I am in the middle of collecting parts for my rebuild these may be on my plate. I have a bracket racer friend that swore by these on the street!
The only thing I worry about is using a Victor Jr. intake would they hurt my low end rather than help?
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Dont worry about getting me mixed up. You are a man in demand! So to clarify, you would go with the 327? What do you think the HP difference would be between the two. I am pretty sure that rebuild would cost about the same for both. 1969 327 I think is a large crank??
Also, If I were to go with a bigger cam in the 327 lets say the xe284 or even the xe294 would I still be able to go with my stock stall in a 700R4?? Once again, I am sorry for asking so many questions, I am really new to this whole thing.
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actually, I have followed your advice all along. I started out wanting a vortec engine and you suggested that I spend my money on heads and go with a 350 that a friend was giving me. I have never even asked about a 383??
Well, turns out that 350 is a 327 (he couldnt tell the difference). I have two options. I can sell the 327 and build a 350 or build the 327.
Thinking I was getting a 350 I bought the heads and intake you suggested (good deals on ebay). The heads are the Iron eagle 215s and the intake is a victor jr.
I understand the importance of matching all of your engine components. I was just thrown for a loop with the 327. I understand that the 350 would make more hp but I have heard a lot of good things about the 327s revving characteristics.
Once again, thanks for your help. I know I have asked a lot of questions.
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I dont really know what to think. A friend of mine is giving me a 1969 Impala with a 350
. When I go to look at it there are the nice little 327 badges staring back at me . Dont get me wrong, I really like the 327 and I think they are one of the best choices for the Z but Im just not sure if will fit with some parts I have already bought. Dart Iron Eagle heads 215cc intake runners and 2.05/1.60 valves
Victor Jr intake.
Im sure the intake will be what I want but are the heads too much?? If not what kind of Hp could I expect to make with the xe274 or the xe278 cams with around a 600 vac secondary?
Im sorry to ask so many questions. It is just great to have someone who knows so much and is willing to help out.
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Hey grumpy, you beat me to the punch. I hadnt read your first response before I posted last. Do you have any reading that will let me in on the pros and cons of going with a solid lifter over a hydraulic. I was thinking hydraulic because I will mainly be driving this on the street and will not be turing it much over 6K.
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I dont really care so much about the ticking. I just dont want to hurt my power band as opposed to helping it. Maybe grumpyvette would have some information?
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I had originally planned to go with a vortec engine in my car. I have never seen anyone use the fuel injection on a car swap. There is a good site where its used on an old Land Cruiser.
Most people seem to take the fuel injection off and go with a carb. You have to buy a special intake from GM or Edelbrock to fit the Vortec heads. Here is what made me change my mind.
1. Stock Vortec heads flow great for stock but you need a set of $200 crane springs or machine work to be able to have more than 0.500 lift
2. The roller cam is great but there is not much available for it that is below 0.500 lift (see No. 1)
3. The cams are very expensive
4. Most aftermarket or GM performance cams require you change to roller rocker arms as well.
5. You can get a couple of really good intakes for the Vortec from edelbrock but they cost quite a bit more than the reagular intakes.
This could be a great motor but I decided to go a different direction. Here is what helped me make up my mind
Vortec engine $1,100
Comp Xtreme Cam $ 240
Crane spings $ 183
Victor Jr intake $ 236
TOTAL $1,759
1969 350 $ 100
Dart 215cc 2.05/1.06 heads $ 850 (ebay new)
Comp Xtreme Cam + Lifters $ 160
Victor Jr intake $ 130 (ebay)
Rebuild kit $ 180
TOTAL $1,420
With all this said. The Vortec is a great engine choice. I just wanted something a little different.
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Man you need to read some of the performance threads on the board. With any kind of stout sbc you will be as fast as the new and old vets!
It sounds like you are just doing a very basic switch but I think you will be happy with what you get. I have never driven a V8 Z but I have driven a ford 302 powered RX7. it was an almost stock 302 (intake, headers and a Holley 600). He could embarrass my other friends new 5.0! I mean run off and leave him! My big piece of advice to you is to make your plans and STICK to them. I started off trying to just build a low buck toy. Now I am gathering the parts for my 400+ HP small block, realizing that I will have to put in sub frame connector$ and a roll cage! Most on here get bitten by the go fast bug! It seems my project grows by a $1000 a day!
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Lone, do you have subframe connectors on your ride? If you do and are breaking your car Im in trouble!
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Do you guys think a good triangulated front and rear strut support would help along with sub frame connectors? I would really like to get around putting in a cage. Im a pretty tall guy, 6'3" 220lbs. I am worried about making a really safe car with no flex that I will not enjoy driving! Also, I would really like to keep the sleeper look if I can.
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I am not really trying to cut corners here but do I really need a roll cage in my 73? I was planning on putting some sort of sub frame connectors but was not thinking about a roll cage. I will be running close to 400HP through a 700r4. I do not want to twist the body up too bad. Would the sub frame be enough?
I understand that I will get a lot of replies asking if the cost of a roll cage is worth my life or safety. The cars didnt come factory with a roll cage and I really dont see that many people with stock Zs putting in a roll cage. I would plan to put one in down the road but was hoping the connectors would be enough for now.
If I do need a cage, do you think a cage would be enough without the connectors?
Please forgive my ignorance!
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Okay guys I am not sure which carb I should get. It looks like I can pick up either a Holly 650 DP or a Holley 750 Vac secondary for a really good price. Here is my information.
1973 240z
350 sbc
Victor Jr intake
Dart Iron Eagle heads 215cc 2.05/1.60
Comp cams xe274 or xe268 (have not made up my mind yet??)
700R4 with stock stall
I have experience with the 750 vac secondary but never with a double pumper. I would really like to have something responsive for the street. If anyone has any advice it would be greatly appreciated!
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Well, I would probably go with the super victor but I am about 99% sure that it will not fit
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Is anyone running it? Will it fit under a stock hood?
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Well, if there is one thing you can count of Fulmer doing its shaping up the lines! I think they will be fine upfront! If you are interested in really great Tennessee information you need to try www.tennessee.rivals.com. Its really slow right now but next week things will be jumping again!
As for the Victor Jr. grumpy had suggested using the Super Victor if it would fit and if not to go with the victor. I think the idea is that the car is so light you really dont need a dual plane intake! Also something you may be interested in I have a Hot Rod Magizine Nov 99 that outlines a build up with Vortec heads. They started with a junk yard 350 with a new timing chain oil pump, tune up and carb kit.
Stage one
90 350 TPI heads
Summit cam kit 214/224 dur 442/465 lift
Weiand dual plane intake
this produced
299 hp @ 5000 RPM and
368 lbft @ 3500 RPM
Stage two
Xetreme energy cam kit 224/230 dur 470/480 lift
319 hp @ 5300 RPM and
380 lbft @ 3900 RPM
Stage three
Vortec heads
Performer intake
375 hp @ 5700 RPM
395 lbft @ 4300 RPM
Stage four
Super Victor intake
Demon Carb
395 hp @ 5700 RPM
400 lbft @ 4800 RPM
The Super Victor had a really flat torque curve. It actually had more torque than the performer from 3600 RPM on up. I kown the Demon had a lot to do with it but I still dont think the tall single plane hurt it. With the bigger cams we are thinking of using I think it would sing!!
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Okay, Looks like with about 400hp Im going to be needing a good set of subframe connectors. I have looked at Peter Paraska's site and I guess that that is the way most of you have gone? He says to double check all of his numbers before starting. Well, I am looking into having some made up and was wondering if his numbers are correct as posted? Also, he said that one rear demension was not listed? Does anyone have access to this demension?
Thanks for your time!
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I need to know what intakes will fit under a stock hood in a JTR 240Z. I will be using a drop down air filter and a 650 Holley vac secondary carb. I am pretty sure the standard Victor Jr will fit just fine but what about the one with the built in 1" spacer? Also, what about the Super Victor. I really dont have the $$$ to invest in a cowl induction hood. Please help if you are running any of these intakes.
. When I go to look at it there are the nice little 327 badges staring back at me 
. Dont get me wrong, I really like the 327 and I think they are one of the best choices for the Z but Im just not sure if will fit with some parts I have already bought. 
It sounds like you are just doing a very basic switch but I think you will be happy with what you get. I have never driven a V8 Z but I have driven a ford 302 powered RX7. it was an almost stock 302 (intake, headers and a Holley 600). He could embarrass my other friends new 5.0! I mean run off and leave him! 
Engine Swap Kit
in Gen I & II Chevy V8 Tech Board
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Buy the JTR (Jags that run) book. That should be the first purchase of anyone thinking of doing a swap. There is a link on the hybrid Z home page or you can get it from Jegs.com or summitracing.com. JTR also sells the basic kit but you really need the book first.
Hope this helps