SoC MATADOR Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 I need to replace my shifter bushings, and came across this brass ones, has anyone tried this and have any comments? http://www.ebay.com/itm/DATSUN-BRASS-SHIFTER-BUSHINGS-240Z-260Z-280Z-E-/110785940202?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item19cb5b4aea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmund Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Yes, I had the same one. What a night and day compare to the stock worn plastic one, shifting is more precise. Ed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 tuff z Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 The other parts you need to check are; shifter pin and the end bushing. Last time I replaced shifter bushings found those worn as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoC MATADOR Posted January 18, 2012 Author Share Posted January 18, 2012 Will do, thanks guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beermanpete Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 We have the brass bushings as well. They work fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luseboy Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Is this worth doing even if your stock bushings are ok? Does it make shifting feel better? Any idea if this would work with a truck shifter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galderdi Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Just a thought: Wouldn't the harder material wear out the shifter forks faster than the plastic one? I assume Nissan designed it with the plastic bush so the plastic bush wears out and needs replacement but the shifter fork shouldn't. Happy to hear other opinions. By the way I waited a little too long to replace mine and the plastic became brittle and ground up in the gearbox. So I Can certainly see advantages of the brass item. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beermanpete Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Brass is softer than steel so it will wear faster than the steel parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luseboy Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Brass is a pretty soft metal, especially compared to the steel shifter as beermanpete said. I use a brass mallet on my strut tubes to free up gland nuts, and it doesn't leave a mark on the tube. I noticed that they list an aluminum bushing as well. Aluminum is a little stiffer than brass, yes? Would that give a better feel than the brass? I'm sure these wouldn't wear out the assembly either... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 tuff z Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Will the brass or aluminum, as it wears out, have any effect on the tranny? It's gotta go somewhere... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ModernS30 Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Don't spend that much money on those. Go to the help section of your local auto parts store. Purchased I believe the Chrysler door hinge pin bushings, I bought the whole kit for like 5 or z dollars. They are tight but a little tap from a hammer and they slide in, the require very small filing/sanding on the inside diameters for your pin to fit through but it was night and day. Super solid shifts, now if only they were shorter shifts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoC MATADOR Posted January 18, 2012 Author Share Posted January 18, 2012 Do you have a part number for those? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makaofox Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 (edited) Im curious for these bushings as well. I was just looking at them the other day. I would want to buy them since my piece is a bit worn. Anyone have a link for the shifter pin and end bushing? Any upgraded end bushing? I saw a link on ebay it was like $14! Im guessing that one wouldnt be a good idea to make out of brass as well? Edited January 18, 2012 by makaofox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony D Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 They aren't really a wear item once changed! i put stainless steel bushings that I made into a shifter in 1985. Now with well over 147,000 miles on them and having gone through three transmissions for internal failures, there is no detectable wear to the original pin, shifter, or e-clip which has been transferred from tranny to tranny as they bit the dust. On my 74, that car has 103,000 on "Help" Hinge Pins and there is nothing showing for wear. As for 'where it goes' it's a dead spot, it can't migrate it just would grind out into dust and fall into the endcup of the transmission. If you have ever looked at the transmission you will know exactly what I'm saying. Frankly, how gear oil gets in there is a mystery to me, but I imagine it's flung by gearing to the top of the shift rod, and migrates back along the rod eventually ending up in the cup there at the back where the shifter pivot is... I would NOT worry about it prematurely wearing anything. If you had a worn shifter pin (which I hardened, I believe!) then it was from YEARS of banging that shifter against the pin without any bushing in there at all. The plastic ones break out and fall into the cup on a regular basis if you are 'grabbing' gears. I've turned them out of SS, Brass, Aluminum, Delrin, and PTFE. My favorites when I don't make them custom (and haven't in quite a while as these work so well) is to use the Oilite Bronze Hinge Pins from the "HELP" card rack at the local auto parts place. They are a little tight, and basically become a permanent part of the shifter...but I haven't had any trouble or difficulty any different than the oversized bushings I would make (lapping them incrementally to fit as tight as I could and still have smooth shift action.) Frankly, the car shifts better now at 140K+ miles on the bushings than it did new as they have finally "loosened up"--which is why I went to the bronze bushings. Stainless Steel takes to long to work in (to those concerned about wear rate...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beermanpete Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 (edited) Don't spend that much money on those. Go to the help section of your local auto parts store. Purchased I believe the Chrysler door hinge pin bushings, I bought the whole kit for like 5 or z dollars. They are tight but a little tap from a hammer and they slide in, the require very small filing/sanding on the inside diameters for your pin to fit through but it was night and day. Super solid shifts, now if only they were shorter shifts. We installed the MSA short throw shifter kit in our Z. It works well and we like it. My only complaint is the shift knob the supply is very heavy and looks to modern for the Z. http://www.thezstore.com/page/TZS/PROD/PRC02A/20-1050 Edited January 19, 2012 by beermanpete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ModernS30 Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Do you have a part number for those? I am sorry I don't have a specific part number, as Tony said though, I just went in there and bought a Chrysler door hinge pin kit and used the bushings, I believe they offer an assorted bushing set in a box as well, you could likely just purchase that and match the bushings to the closest fit. There is a thread somewhere on here with part numbers, it is pretty old if I am not mistaken and I stumbled upon it probably a year and a half ago? I don't really remember. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony D Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Yeah, I keep forgetting and the assortment kit has two sets in it that will work. One set is 'too long' and you sand the small ends down. The other set is 'too short' as it won't bush the shifter all the way through, but it works for someone who comes to your place trying to sponge something off you for nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIP260Z Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 I got a set of these bushes and put them in, lucky I kept the email (from 2005!). I think they are made by Doorman, though the email says: MOTORMITE BUSHING KITS and the part no. is 38386. Easy to fit as others have said, kit has two pins and 4 bushes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makaofox Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 I brought an end bushing on ebay and the assortment pack of brass bushings at Advanced auto parts. The assortment pack cost me $5 and 2 of them fit perfectly, BUT you do have to mill them to fit the pin. You can buy another pack that has a pin already in it with the bushings, but I wasnt sure if they would fit. I also brought an assortment of "E" clips for $3. I broke one of the brass bushings by mistake (How beats me but probably from the bit I used with the hot and cold) But when I had it in and the pin fit, HOLY MOSES with the addition to the end bushing the shifter feel was NIGHT AND DAY! Granted my z isnt running and the tranny is out of the car but feeling it out there was a nice feel to it in gear and a nice feel while shifting. For less than $10 you can have such a simple and worth while fix! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darrel Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 (edited) Make note of the part numbers, one by the set of bushings and the other on the package. I used a bench vise and a flat file to make them fit. I used the vise to install the bushings, then used the vise to run the pin through the bushings, then worked the pin with pliers to loosen it enough so it would move a little easier. Then I used a flat file on the flanges of the bushings on both sides so it would just fit between the ears on the transmission. Don't forget to use lubricant when installing the bushings and pin. Edited January 27, 2012 by Darrel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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