quickdraw Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 I purchased a 240z style front fiberglass bumper. It get's here but the fitment is off. It seems to be about 2 inches too wide. The manufacturer is implying that bending a little bit won't be a problem but I'm concerned that the long-term tension may cause problems with the paint or the structure itself. Is it ok to bend fiberglass like this or will it cause problems? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldAndyAndTheSea Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Fiberglass can bend. Should it? no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socorob Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Can you make a review of the parts, to maybe keep others from getting bad parts if that's the case? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickdraw Posted November 9, 2014 Author Share Posted November 9, 2014 Fiberglass can bend. Should it? no. That kinda what I was thinking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickdraw Posted November 9, 2014 Author Share Posted November 9, 2014 Can you make a review of the parts, to maybe keep others from getting bad parts if that's the case? Most likely...I want to give them an opportunity to make it right before I do anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thezguy Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Most likely...I want to give them an opportunity to make it right before I do anything. Sounds like they already screwed up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtball Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 I'll chime in on this. I ordered a MSA type 1 air dam a few weeks ago. And the overall quality was very poor, and the fotment is bad. MSA doesn't manyfacture these, but who they get them from uses the same mold. The turn assign all holes are already cut out too wide for the turn signals, the manufacture states "if you center the turn signal in the center of the opening and mark it then drill the holes. It should work without any issues" I think I should have been allowed to cut this out myself if it wasn't going to be done right. My number is short two inches as well, but the angles are too far in, I need to flex my number out. Probably end up making relief cuts ect. Again nothing against MSA, they offered a refund. But that's not the point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lorenzo Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Are you certain this is not for a 260z? I have a metal 240z and 260z front bumper and the 260z bumper is about an inch wider on each side. I purchased a 240z style front fiberglass bumper. It get's here but the fitment is off. It seems to be about 2 inches too wide. The manufacturer is implying that bending a little bit won't be a problem but I'm concerned that the long-term tension may cause problems with the paint or the structure itself. Is it ok to bend fiberglass like this or will it cause problems? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickdraw Posted November 9, 2014 Author Share Posted November 9, 2014 Are you certain this is not for a 260z? I have a metal 240z and 260z front bumper and the 260z bumper is about an inch wider on each side. It was billed as a 240z bumper. I'm rocking a 280z...I didn't think that would be different. They indicated it wouldn't matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickdraw Posted November 9, 2014 Author Share Posted November 9, 2014 Sounds like they already screwed up It's Brian with ZCCJDM.com. I don't disagree...but as a business owner myself I feel like they should have the opportunity to make it right. He noted a possible manufacturing defect...stuff happens. Should they make it right, that should be part of the commentary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickdraw Posted November 9, 2014 Author Share Posted November 9, 2014 I'll chime in on this. I ordered a MSA type 1 air dam a few weeks ago. And the overall quality was very poor, and the fotment is bad. MSA doesn't manyfacture these, but who they get them from uses the same mold. The turn assign all holes are already cut out too wide for the turn signals, the manufacture states "if you center the turn signal in the center of the opening and mark it then drill the holes. It should work without any issues" I think I should have been allowed to cut this out myself if it wasn't going to be done right. My number is short two inches as well, but the angles are too far in, I need to flex my number out. Probably end up making relief cuts ect. Again nothing against MSA, they offered a refund. But that's not the point. I'm having trouble with the bumper not the airdam but good luck with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socorob Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Just got my msa airdam in Thursday. What a POS. The gelcoat had star cracks in about half a dozen places. Chips all over it. Looks like some punk kids threw rocks at it all day long. The fitment was able to be tweaked to be good enough, but nowhere near perfect. Some spots will have to be grinded down and filled to make things line up decently. They said its fiberglass parts, that's how they are. What they should have said was that's how THEIR fiberglass parts are. They did offer me a refund as long as I paid the shipping back. I've bought fiberglass parts for other cars in the past and they were about perfect. I asked if they would put a disclaimer on their website for these saying they come rough and finishing is required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socorob Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 (edited) By the way, if you have a chance buy a used one. I turned down the opportunity to buy a used one for &50. It looked way better than the new one. I guess someone else already did all the filling on it. Edited November 9, 2014 by socorob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtball Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Yup!! That's how mine came in, even have pics to back it up. With the same bs of a refund. Oh well, guess every single part of my project car is going to be a "project" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickdraw Posted November 18, 2014 Author Share Posted November 18, 2014 Looking for a little feedback. Turns out it's a MSA fiberglass bumper. Pics below. Again asked by ZCCJDM to "try and bolt up". Those that have this bumper...did you have similar fitment issues? They've appropriately offered a return but curious if I am going to get the same thing elsewhere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socorob Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Why not go bumperless?A FG bumpers not going to help in an accident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPMS Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Looking for a little feedback. Turns out it's a MSA fiberglass bumper. Pics below. Again asked by ZCCJDM to "try and bolt up". Those that have this bumper...did you have similar fitment issues? They've appropriately offered a return but curious if I am going to get the same thing elsewhere? What you're showing looks correct to me. The stock bumpers I've worked with in the past weren't designed to bolt directly to the body. There's a rubber stand-off that goes between the bumper and the body. If MSA is making a replacement-style bumper made out of fiberglass, then what you've got looks correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LanceVance Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 My bumper is off, PM me measurement across from end to end and I'll compare with my OEM piece. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickdraw Posted November 19, 2014 Author Share Posted November 19, 2014 Why not go bumperless?A FG bumpers not going to help in an accident. I like the look. No other reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickdraw Posted November 19, 2014 Author Share Posted November 19, 2014 My bumper is off, PM me measurement across from end to end and I'll compare with my OEM piece. Much appreciated. I'll do it when I get home tonight What you're showing looks correct to me. The stock bumpers I've worked with in the past weren't designed to bolt directly to the body. There's a rubber stand-off that goes between the bumper and the body. If MSA is making a replacement-style bumper made out of fiberglass, then what you've got looks correct. Hmmm...that's interesting. This is a 280z conversion to 240z bumpers so I didn't have the reference. What's interesting is that I've seen quite a few z's with the fitment that appears to attach directly to the body. Still a little bit of space but by no means what I have. Any ideas on how they're doing that? Hacking up the option I have, perhaps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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