andyhorror Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 so. my new feal coisl arrived saturday and i spent most of saturday measuring and some of sunday cutting. i have what i feel may may be a new good idea for welding on coil perches. im on my phone now but ill post a pic later. ok heres the idea. instead of seam welding at the bottom like ive seen so often. i started drilling holes evenly spaced an inch apart all around the lower perch 5/8" from the bottom. landing my drilled holes half way up on the cut portion of my original strut tube. once holes are drilled and perch is on weld through the holes. im hoping this method has less chance of warping while welding. any thoughts, opinions, concerns? also not sure if this should be in the fab/weld section instead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhorror Posted February 17, 2015 Author Share Posted February 17, 2015 managed to get hold of my fabrication consultant. ill put up before and after pics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowpoke Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Never heard of this setup. More info and pics would be cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevlars30z Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 I've head a person say that FEAL had something for the s30. I've searched like crazy and never saw something. Please post pics! Are they made for an s30? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhorror Posted February 23, 2015 Author Share Posted February 23, 2015 sorry to anyone that's been keeping an eye out too much coffee and whisky trying to get some work done on the car. in total rush mode to be ready for summer. FEAL is good stuff from what ive seen so far. they will make coils for just about anything that can use em it seems. i spoke with odi bakchis owner to order them. He made it sound like they had done a few sets before. the kit is pretty nice. it comes with nice powder coated lower perches that you quickly cut,sand,grind, and weld. they do have a nice inner ring machined into them. i just cut the og tubes down just below said machined ring. I'll swing by the shop on my way to work with my camera get some pics of em before they're all installed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevlars30z Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Sweet. Yea get some pictures of those. I'm about to buy bc coil-overs but I've heard that FEAL is really good. What did you pay for them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhorror Posted February 24, 2015 Author Share Posted February 24, 2015 the cost was 1350 same as their off the shelf coils, cost me 1,405 to my door. i thought that was pretty cool that they dont charge extra for a "custom" coilover setup. if your car is already on the the ground setup and you have the ability to corner weight it they will build dampers custom to your setup. without further a due or prcrastination from me lol you can somewhat see the machined step in the lower perch. this is a front and as you can tell no notch for the nipple on the knuckle so i made my own on the front that i have already done. yet to order the T3 bolt in camber plates so im still running stock top for the time being just to i can get cutting on the floors my weld job... i was freaking out about welding 400$ to not easily replaced pieces and having them end up crooked. so i hatched a plan and went over it with my welder friend. he assures me they will be plenty strong. im still a little nervous about it. rears. they're not the prettiest of welds but i burned em in good and hot. plenty of penetration. rear rates. my springs are way too stiff from what ive read here but its what odi suggested and was on the other sets that hes made. if theyre too rough ill change em up thought i had a pic of the front rates... guess not, theyre 700 pic of the only one bolted in the turd i mean car. little shop pic teaser. hope to have some funny vids form this place for yall this summer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowpoke Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 The setup looks cool. I am not a professional welder but I'm not to sure about those welds. From the pics it looks like you didn't clean up rust around where you welded. I don't think that's ok. Also if you left a 30-40mm lip on the original strut tube before you pressed in the threaded sleeve it would be pretty hard to weld it on crooked. I paid $50 to weld all for corners after I prepped them. The bead is laid around the edge of where the tube meets the spindle. I would get a second opinion. Nice shop workspace, looks like you guys have a nice bit of space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhorror Posted February 24, 2015 Author Share Posted February 24, 2015 the threaded perch isnt a press fit. those dots around the lower perch are holes that i drilled evenly all the way around and welded through. the lowers are basically plug welded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevlars30z Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 They're don't come with a top hat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhorror Posted February 25, 2015 Author Share Posted February 25, 2015 no they only come with a conical upper spring perch. so i guess all in, i'll have 1900 after camber plates and front front needle bearing spring perches. most off the shelf coil sets only come with front camber adjust-ability anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevlars30z Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 So pretty much all you need is the T3 bolt on camber plate and you're set? I'm kinda stuck between FEAL and BC. I personally prefer FEAL over BC. But the whole buy your own camber plates is kind of making me lean towards BC's bolt on kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowpoke Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 Interesting, Just haven't seen plug welds used for this application. Lets see it on the ground Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhm Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 I'd be surprised if you decide that 5kg/in is too stiff.....they should work well for any street use, and even some light track use. (And Swift is good stuff, so they should last a good long time for you.) Good luck with the rest of the build. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnc Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 Wait... your only attachment of the strut tube to the spindle are those "plug" welds? If so. I suggest you run a bead around the base of where the tube touches the spindle and hub casting. From the factory the strut tubes are press fit and furnace brazed to the spindle and hub castings. You want to duplicate that as best you can. And if your front springs are really 700 lb. in. then, well, you will have lots if handing issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhorror Posted March 4, 2015 Author Share Posted March 4, 2015 (edited) 392 up front and 280 out back in lbs. swift springs are measured in kilos. still a little stiffer than than what has generally been recommended here. this is the first car that ive ever really built, so anything is going to be better to me than lowered on stock struts, slip over coils and 20yr old oe bushings. Jonc - i think since the coils arent really bolted in as of yet i will run some beads at the base if you say it needs done. i bow to your Z knowledge. Edited March 4, 2015 by andyhorror Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1vicissitude Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 You get the car on the road yet? Please report back when you get your first impression. I know some people who have used Odi's coils and they couldn't have better things to say about them. He's not too far from me, thinking about going this direction as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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