DeusEx Posted February 14, 2005 Share Posted February 14, 2005 Hi guys, well i finall got my new spoiler, see attached. But i have a problem (dont worry there are pics to explain). On the most inner bottom left hole in the headlight bucket the new spoiler doesnt come up to meet it. It only just comes half way, meaning i cant place a screw there and i would assume this would be a load bearing screw for the downforce. In the pics the red circle shows the hole i am talking about, and the green line is where my spoier goes. This seems to be normal as every pic i have seen of this spoiler, the edge does not line up perfectly with the corner of teh headlight bucket, but i had hoped that the corner would be long enough..... Not making sence? Please look at the pics. Thanks **ok for some reason the HybirdZ gods have stopped me from adding attatchments. ill try again soon* this is the spoiler for reference http://www.classiczcars.com/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=12005&sort=1&cat=all&page=2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spotfitz Posted February 14, 2005 Share Posted February 14, 2005 I ran into this same thing. As a matter of fact, this weekend I was looking at this area. When I got my Z painted I replaced both head light buckets. The body shop that put the spoiler on didn't drill the second set of holes. The spot you are refering to is where 240Z bumpers normally bolt up. On my 260Z I used the hole for the rubber strip on the bumper to bolt this area up in the hole in the bucket. Once the bumper is on you can't see the "misalignment" issue with the spoiler. You need to drill new holes for the spoiler to bold to the bucket just above the turn signal. If this made no sense, pm me and I can take some pics tonight for you. I'm going on pure coffee right now, due to lack of sleep last night. Hope it helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeusEx Posted February 14, 2005 Author Share Posted February 14, 2005 No i think i get it, what you are saying though is i need to drill a new set of holes into the headlight bucket.....something i was hoping i wouldnt have to do. Actually after thinking about it, no i dont get it sorry (unless what i said above is correct), what do you mean rubber holes in the bumper? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
260DET Posted February 15, 2005 Share Posted February 15, 2005 Where did you get that spoiler from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeusEx Posted February 15, 2005 Author Share Posted February 15, 2005 DET, from Japan... OK got a work around, tell me what you guys think, rather than drill a new hole in the headlight bucket, i was just gonna drill a small hole (1.5 cm dia) and then use a thick zip tie to hold it on. Should be strong enough providing i can get a small space/ring to go around the edge of the hole in the spoier ( to more even distribute the pressure put on by the cable tie) Or is drilling a better option? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spotfitz Posted February 15, 2005 Share Posted February 15, 2005 Lots of force is exerted on the spoiler at speed. I personally would not trust a zip tie for this. Once a bumper is on you can't see this area so I don't know why drilling holes would be a concern. There is another alternative though. Even with the spoiler bolted up as I suggested, at high speed the spoiler can still flex to some degree. This has been discussed to long extents on this board. Some have made an extension from the spoiler to the lower radiator support(not a belly pan). It adds downforce, directs air into the radiator and gives the needed support to the spoiler. I think going this route with a sturdy enough extension you could do without the 1 of the bolts going into each of the head light buckets, but you would still need to use the bolts that go into the fender at the trailing most edge of the spoiler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruxGNZ Posted February 15, 2005 Share Posted February 15, 2005 I'm not sure if this is something similar to what your talking about, but here is a problem I ran into, and what I did to fix it. The airdam was way off, making it point up into the sky and just didn't look quite right. First install Eyeing up the problem Illustration of the fix After the fix 1 After the fix 2 !M! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhadman Posted February 15, 2005 Share Posted February 15, 2005 I did the same thing Mat73GNZ did and it worked like a charm. I ordered my spoiler from MSA and the fitment was absolutely terrible. I guess that's to be expected considering the age of the tooling and the cost of the part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeusEx Posted February 15, 2005 Author Share Posted February 15, 2005 Very similar to that , but not to that extent, i was still able to drill about 3cm next to the first hole and its all good. so its bolted up YEY! Now to paint it. Next step is to create a brace from the bottom of the radiator support, but as it has no lip undernearth the spoiler, im thinking of just using some metal strips and using them as a support. So the strip (with some foam or padding) will sit behind the spoiler and if force begins to push at it, it will brace it. Its a short enough distance that i doubt it will matter if its not bolted to the spoiler. Any ideas? WIll paint and get pics soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
260DET Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 With my last spoiler a flat aluminium sheet was attached to the front of it, underneath, and then back to under the Xmember. Various attachment points were used or made up. This helps airflow, supports the spoiler and prevents crap splashing up on the engine from the road. So how much did the spoiler cost all up from Japan DE? Or shouldn't I ask Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeusEx Posted February 16, 2005 Author Share Posted February 16, 2005 He he Lets just say i really wanted this spoiler. Just got a quote for 200 bucks to spray it too so they can stick that and ill paint it myself with a spray can. Unless there are some kind brisbane ppl willing to lend me there services . Ill pay of course...but 200 bucks seems unreasonable. DET im not sure what you mean with the undertray, but it sounds like a ground effects sort of thing to streamline it. But as i said, i dont know where that would atach on my spoiler.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akeizm Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 I paid 200 to get my skirt painted. I was also going to do it myself with spray cans until I realised it would turn out kinda crappy. So I think forkin out the cash to get it done properly will have a better finish then a couple of cans. But my skirt doesn't meet up properly aswell but I've just got a rubber bushing behind where it doesnt meet to fill out the gap and it did the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhadman Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 Was that $200 JUST to paint it, or did that include final fitment and prep? If so... $200 isn't too unreasonable. I can't vouch for the quality of the Japanese part, but mine required a fair amount of sanding and filling to look right. What type of finish are you looking for? If you're not overly worried about color matching then a rattle-can job can look pretty decent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nismo280zEd Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 I'll paint it for 80, but the shipping to the us would kill ya. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeusEx Posted February 16, 2005 Author Share Posted February 16, 2005 yeah im guessing it would amount to more than 200 after shipping... I dunno, maybe ill spray it first and see how it turns out, if it looks shite its a $20 mistake, if it looks good, then theres nothing to worry about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datsunlover Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 I don't know where my front air dam came from as it was on the car when I bought it, but I had the same issues. Solved them like mat73 did as well, with a couple of pieces of flat sheet metal riveted to the headlight buckets. I molded fiberglass over it and you can't tell with the 240 bumper on there. As for $200 to paint the spoiler.. seams a little high to me.. I got my whole car painted for $200! (I did all the body work/masking/prep) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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