jbc3 Posted January 28, 2006 Share Posted January 28, 2006 I stopped by the scales yesterday and weighed my car. Now I never made any attempt to lighten anything and nearly everything I added, added to the weight... oh well. I'm not looking for advise to reduce weight...(obviously I just need to take some of the sh** off if I want to trim down) just commenting on how much. Added: Rear flares Roll bar Sub frames LT1/6 speed vs stock motor/trans R230 vs R200 Frame for R230 Toyota 4 piston calipers and 3rd gen Camaro Hub/rotor vs stock brakes Rear rotor/caliper vs aluminum drum and stock brakes (maybe a wash) MMC billet stub axles vs stock stubs Moser axles and CV's vs stock axles 4th Gen Camaro Leather seats vs stock seats 16" 4th Gen Camaro wheels/tires vs 15" stock wheels/tires (maybe a wash) Loss: (not much in this column) roll bar tubing behind rear valance and in front of radiator (since no bumpers) vs stock bumpers and supports 3/4 tank of gas and 1/2 full 10lb nitrous bottle, laptop and power inverter. #3110 lbs. #3305 lbs with me in the car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikelly Posted January 28, 2006 Share Posted January 28, 2006 Holy CRAP! So much for being the "great little car with big motor"! I think you and Pete should start a support group for overweight Zcar owners! Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumpyvette Posted January 28, 2006 Share Posted January 28, 2006 I can,t help it! Im going to make you feel worse!!!! my CORVETTE weights 3429lbs with ME in it! and WHILE I won,t give you exact info, that "with ME in it!" part is significant! (at OVER 250 lbs)(Im 6'3") Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nazar Posted January 28, 2006 Share Posted January 28, 2006 how much heavier is a 280 than a 240? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators BRAAP Posted January 28, 2006 Administrators Share Posted January 28, 2006 ROFLMAO… Good one Mike… Pete & JBC starting a support group for overweight Z cars… LOL I can see it now… the Zone diet, maybe AtkinZ, LOL, Start you out on a NO CARBurator diet… LOL… by eating more Honda’s and less of those Iron laden american meals of Ford, and Dodge that are high on CARBS.. LOL When I read how much your car weighed, I conjured up images of Jerome Bettis, a little portly guy that stops for NUTTIN!!! He may be a little chubby, but rest assured, like your 11 second Z, it’s all MUSCLE!!!! Any Z car that runs 11.4 @ 120 N/A is doing something right even if does resemble miss Piggy.. Just think what she’ll do if you enroll her in Zenny Craig, LOL, and get her down to say 2700-2800 minus driver….. Could be knocking on the door of 10’s N/A!!!! YEE HAA!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SC457A Posted January 28, 2006 Share Posted January 28, 2006 wow, my 2+2 with me in it weighs 3030, but it is a back halfed 9-inch, 4link equipped slow bracket car. i need to lose some weight off the nose of my car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators BRAAP Posted January 28, 2006 Administrators Share Posted January 28, 2006 how much heavier is a 280 than a 240? My guess would be between 100-200 lbs between a 240 and 280, (L-series equipped cars). This does not include those Living room sofas that Nissan calls “bumpers†that the 280 received, I don’t feel those bumpers really count in that comparison Weight differences comes from R-180 vs R-200, a little more frame rail material in different locations throughout the cars, more wiring, etc. The ’77 and ’78 280’z also gained some more weight in the doors, but the window actuators have a smoother action as a result… Someone on here has to have more accurate data for this question… FWIW, my V-8 280-Z weighed in a 2750 lbs, ½ tank of gas, no driver. With the driver, 2950 at a 49-51 weight distribution, rear bias. ’75 280-Z (Had a 240 front bumper only), full interior street car with Auto Power roll bar. Iron SBC 350 block and Iron 041 casting heads Aluminum Edel Perf. intake, Holley 650 4150 carb, iron water pump. Gear reduction starter, W/C T-5 trans, Aluminum driveshaft, R-200 diff. Ron Davis Aluminum radiator, 3 gallons of coolant, dual 2 ½†exhaust all the way back. Stock brakes front and rear, (what was I thinking with the stock brakes?) Car ran 12.3 @ 113 MPH, 8.0 @ 92 MPH at the 1/8th, 2.0 60ft times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nazar Posted January 28, 2006 Share Posted January 28, 2006 those diffs are crazy, when i recieved my q45 r230 i was like HOLY **** this thing is heavy, its like 80lb or so...insane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastzcars Posted January 28, 2006 Share Posted January 28, 2006 Well nazar you wanted a HEAVY duty rearend, you got it. BTW that sounds about right, my 73' car is 2760 lbs . And I surely didn't put in light stuff either. I mean, I put in a/c, aftermarket t56, mcloud steel bellhousing,R200 w/ quaife,300zxt cv's. I mean everything I installed was heavier than stock. So a it would make since that a 280 would be 200-300 ponds heavier. Don't worry though, your still faster than most cars,including yours truely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nazar Posted January 28, 2006 Share Posted January 28, 2006 if i can get mine to no more than 2600lb dry i would be happy, its a 71 240z I wont have ac, ps, etc.... I have no bumpers. I will try to get an aluminum driveshaft(if not CF), its an lt1 with aluminum heads, aftermarket headers, aluminum radiator. Its got a lighter flywheel . Even the steering wheel is much lighter, lol...stock one is heavy THe rear end will add alot as i have a q45 diff, cv's, etc... I did get the aluminum mustache bar however and my wheels are forged. We'll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ON3GO Posted January 28, 2006 Share Posted January 28, 2006 my 77 280z which is the heaviest S30Z cars along with the 78 year now weighs 2580lbs. thats not with me in it but im only a 130lbs or so... hehe. thats with full 3in exhaust, turbo motor, fmic setup, NO bumpers, a/c was still there, full interior, 10in sub, FD rx7 leather seats, and 1/4th tank of gas. im sure i took other things off but i forgot. i now have NO a/c what so ever, no heater, no exhaust lol, no sound system, fuel cell, sparco sprint seat, larger fmic though, less interior but still looks full, and a few other things i took out. hope to be around 2450lbs or so.. not all late 280Z's are heavy! mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David K Posted January 28, 2006 Share Posted January 28, 2006 my 77 280z which is the heaviest S30Z cars along with the 78 year now weighs 2580lbs.thats not with me in it but im only a 130lbs or so... hehe. thats with full 3in exhaust' date=' turbo motor, fmic setup, NO bumpers, a/c was still there, full interior, 10in sub, FD rx7 leather seats, and 1/4th tank of gas. im sure i took other things off but i forgot. i now have NO a/c what so ever, no heater, no exhaust lol, no sound system, fuel cell, sparco sprint seat, larger fmic though, less interior but still looks full, and a few other things i took out. hope to be around 2450lbs or so.. not all late 280Z's are heavy! mike[/quote'] Id like to see photo evidence of your Z on the scale and the readout to back up that claim. I would also like to know what type of scale you weighed your z on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ON3GO Posted January 28, 2006 Share Posted January 28, 2006 lol i didnt think of taking a pic of the car on the scales at the track (HRP for the houston'ers). scale is what everybody uses at the 1/4th mile track here in houston. it was done over a year ago when the car was running. i forgot his name but a fellow hybridz'er was there from i think Baton LA... he had a 81 turbo 280zx auto, i remember his headlights being pretty bright as hell and wanted them! Thumper on this site got his Z to almost the same weight and it was a striped to hell 280zx turbo.. mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikelly Posted January 28, 2006 Share Posted January 28, 2006 Well my 74 260Z (The white car with flares on Zcar car of the month January 2001) weighed in at Maryland International Raceway at 2580-ish # (My memory may be fuzzy, I'm aging!) and that was with a 383 stroker, T56, R200 LSD, Aluminum 15 Gallon cell, and a 6 point cage. The car was a full interior car wiht stock sustpensio, no coil overs, and the 4X4 front brakes, and the JCR Rear disc conversion. I suspect there is a HUGE issue with how accurate scales in general are from track to track, place to place. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olie05 Posted January 28, 2006 Share Posted January 28, 2006 I measured my z at the same scale as Mike, and i got 2580 with me standing on the scale (i weigh about 120lbs). My car is also a 77, no bumpers or supports, no ac, aluminum swasticas, and very little gas. 280z's can be light too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbc3 Posted January 28, 2006 Author Share Posted January 28, 2006 I weighed mine on a digital truck scale at a roofing supply business near me. I think I will go up again and re-weigh the car at some time in the near future to verify the reading, but I suspect that it is pretty accurate since it weighs in 1 lb increments and I stepped on and off the scale several times with my car on it and it was dead on. Hey, It still runs like a bat outa hell, and I can't wait to run it on the nitrous I just remember the old days building V8 Vegas and watching them twist like crazy, so I wanted to make sure I wasn't driving a pretzel in 6 months. Nazar: Just to give you a point of reference, I weighed my R230 on the shipping scale at work and it weighed 123lbs !!! I it very heavy. Grumpyvette: I know we weighed a friend's Z06 last year and it was around 3100lbs. (I don't remember exactly) That is really my point of reference for saying that my car is a fat pig. Jody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zfan Posted January 28, 2006 Share Posted January 28, 2006 My 1971 240Z with a 383 sbc/ 700r4 combo also has a 6 point cage, drive shaft loop and half shaft loops as well. With big heavy Konig 17" rims it weighs 2640 and that is officials as I weighed it at two different tracks. Also the cars has a 10" sub/box, 2 amps and 6 speakers. Also front and rear strut tower braces, damn I could go on and on. I guess you can tell I like my music! Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwik240z Posted January 29, 2006 Share Posted January 29, 2006 if i can get mine to no more than 2600lb dry i would be happy' date=' its a 71 240z I wont have ac, ps, etc.... I have no bumpers. I will try to get an aluminum driveshaft(if not CF), its an lt1 with aluminum heads, aftermarket headers, aluminum radiator. Its got a lighter flywheel . Even the steering wheel is much lighter, lol...stock one is heavy THe rear end will add alot as i have a q45 diff, cv's, etc... I did get the aluminum mustache bar however and my wheels are forged. We'll see.[/quote'] My 72 240Z weighed 2540 this summer. Since then I changed the wheels and tires from 14" Konigs to 16" Panasports. Soon I will be doing the q45 diff, a front brake upgrade, a rear disk conversion and adding soundproofing. I am hoping to stay under 2700 but if it goes over, no big deal. Car is a weekend cruiser 1st, track and autocross car 2nd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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