ToplessZ Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 Sure you can get that look with a roller....and the aid of photoshop lol. I wouldn't count on show quality but if you check out the moparts forum and find the album of the guy who originated it, you can look at his closeups that are really good!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK-Z Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 Its all about the prep work before and after painting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dj paul Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 anyone happen to find that color in a paint you could roll on like he was talking about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartman Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 What specific US paint is the same as the Tremclad paint he used? I know its from Rustoleum, but maybe the specific formulation of Tremclad isn't allowed in the US (EPA or ?). Do you think it would only work well with this specific paint? I would think your options for colors would be very limited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SouthGaZX Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 not trying to hijack the thread.. but what type of bumper is that on the pic of the blue japanese car? looks like a normal 240z bumper only its missing the vertical pieces on the mid left and right sides.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK-Z Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 not trying to hijack the thread.. but what type of bumper is that on the pic of the blue japanese car? looks like a normal 240z bumper only its missing the vertical pieces on the mid left and right sides.. That is a 240z bumper (or reproduction) it just with out the bumper guards and the holes either filled in, or were never put in (reproduction). If your looking for one, I know MSA were selling fiberglass ones (not sure if they still do). Ok, on with the thread. I would also like to know what colors would be avalible and if it would be possible to mix colors with that formulation and how thin would you want it to be to lay down and would you lay it in layers?. On a side note, I think I would rather spray on the epoxy primer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z-TARD Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 What specific US paint is the same as the Tremclad paint he used? I know its from Rustoleum' date=' but maybe the specific formulation of Tremclad isn't allowed in the US (EPA or ?). Do you think it would only work well with this specific paint? I would think your options for colors would be very limited.[/quote'] The only paint listed as "Real Orange" on the Rustoleum website is under the Painters Choice catagory, and is an acrylic latex. http://www.rustoleum.com/product.asp?frm_product_id=32&SBL=1 The guy who painted the Charger said he used an acrylic enamel. The only enamels on the rustoleum website that I could find were all oil based. There are quite a few color options in the Stops Rust catagory, but not the "Real Orange" color. There is a gloss orange that looks really close to Chevy engine block orange though. http://www.rustoleum.com/product.asp?frm_product_id=18&SBL=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z-TARD Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 anyone happen to find that color in a paint you could roll on like he was talking about? Cobalt Blue Metallic #7251. Might have to add in a little black and green to get it a little closer to the car in the picture. http://www.rustoleum.com/product.asp?frm_product_id=22&SBL=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dj paul Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 thanks, i kind of like that color, i might try it on my other cars spare door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EZ-E Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 I think this is what hes talking about, maybe http://www.rustoleum.com/Product.asp?frm_product_id=18&SBL=1&dds=16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ON3GO Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 thats the euro bumper on the front of that blue Z... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToplessZ Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 Man I am surprised at some of you guys all this posting without searching or reading. Anyways EZ that is the correct color chart. If you read all of the moparts thread you will see all this info and answers to your questions posted already if not twice... then later in the thread you see the noob with a friggin civic (I have one too) that signs up and asks all the questions that were already answered. Seems that happens here alot nowadays Sorry for the rant. On with pictures of trials. I know someone has already bought some paint and is trying it on their mail box or something right...I almost went to lowes just to look at the paint but then I thought....must concentrate on school work rather then car projects Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z-TARD Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 .......I picked up 7 little 4oz. cans last night...... So far I've just been messing around mixing colors on a paper plate. They didn't have any orange, so I tried to make it. Turns out yellow and red make something that looks like it came out of the backside of a baby that just ate carrots. It's definitely orange, but not a good kind of orange. Mixing the aluminum color with most of the solid colors results in a decent metallic look, hard to keep mixed though as the aluminum always wants to float to the surface. If I could find the Real Orange #1953 color in the Stops Rust paint, I would probably go this route. The caterpillar yellow is also pretty cool, but more and more I'm leaning towards using DuraCoat. Maybe "The Turd" will eventually get a rustoleum paint job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToplessZ Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 Lowes I believe will order a color for you. I would be interested to see how the aluminum paint mixes. However, I believe it has a different chemical composition thus the seperation. I don't think I would want the same problem to transfer to my paintjob. As for metallics, the moparts thread says not to use them. Man I wish I had my car at school I want to do this so bad! On a side note one might want to look into valspar implement enamels and see if their rust paint is the same. Just head over to your local TSC (tractor supply co) and look at all the colors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
240ZR Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 Is there a Flat black???????? here is my next paint job.... http://www.rustoleum.com/Product.asp?ddf=17&frm_product_id=34&SBL=1 sarcasm> Umm I THINK the termclad is under the INDUSTRIAL tab at the top on the right http://www.rustoleum.com/Product.asp?frm_product_id=91&SBL=2&ddis= I knew i had seen that stuff befor.... I think i painted a tractor with it once..... This is what i would use if there where better colors.... http://www.rustoleum.com/Product.asp?frm_product_id=157&SBL=2&ddis= I FOUND MY NEW Z color http://www.rustoleum.com/Product.asp?frm_product_id=98&SBL=2&ddis= color:3147402 Ill call my Z a CatZpiller.. cover it it cat badge work........ weld on a snow plow..... mmmmm where are alll the cool colors? I dont think tremclad is illegal state side... id import from canada or call up Rust-oleum and talk to a rep to see.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dj paul Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 Is there a Flat black???????? here is my next paint job.... http://www.rustoleum.com/Product.asp?ddf=17&frm_product_id=34&SBL=1 sarcasm> Umm I THINK the termclad is under the INDUSTRIAL tab at the top on the right http://www.rustoleum.com/Product.asp?frm_product_id=91&SBL=2&ddis= I knew i had seen that stuff befor.... I think i painted a tractor with it once..... This is what i would use if there where better colors.... http://www.rustoleum.com/Product.asp?frm_product_id=157&SBL=2&ddis= I FOUND MY NEW Z color http://www.rustoleum.com/Product.asp?frm_product_id=98&SBL=2&ddis= color:3147402 Ill call my Z a CatZpiller.. cover it it cat badge work........ weld on a snow plow..... mmmmm where are alll the cool colors? I dont think tremclad is illegal state side... id import from canada or call up Rust-oleum and talk to a rep to see.... well i would use the glossy black, but the alkyd enamel does not say direct to metal like mopar was saying to use. otherwise i either like the silver or the 2 blacks in the acrylic enamel (which is the eqiuvilent of what he said to use) lol, catzpillar? that would be so fruity =) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J__ Posted February 7, 2006 Author Share Posted February 7, 2006 i would definately NOT use a metalic paint for this roller method... it'll look like crap. if ur goin to spray it then its fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dj paul Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 but do you think the glossy black in the acrylic enamel would be ok? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToplessZ Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 Not sure how weather resistant the black is going to be may fade quicker then brighter colors. In any case, I have been reading and researching. Calling rustoleum tommorrow, and it seems that tremclad rust paint and the rustoleum that you are buying at walmart very well may have a different chemical makeup. The stuff at walmart says to reduce with acetone not paint thinner where the tremclad in canada says to reduce with varsol or mineral spirits. I looked at the valspar rust implement enamel at TSC today and not only are there alot of colors but its main ingredient is mineral spirits. The unfortunate thing is the valspar paint says not to thin at all. I may have to experiment with it somewhere down the road if someone else does not beat me to it. I just have my doubts about the durability of plain old rustoleum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dj paul Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 this one says to thin it with fresh water? (in the technical data sheets) http://www.rustoleum.com/Product.asp?frm_product_id=91&SBL=2&ddis it looks like the closest one to what hes talking about, no need to prime and such, acrylic enamel etc... but he said mineral spirits thins it and this says water because its water based. but i bet its the same thing. it says for industrial use only so it must be pretty similar to what the guy was talking about. when i get the chance im going to go try it on my spare door should be this weekend. ill let you all know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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