big-phil Posted June 23, 2006 Share Posted June 23, 2006 Its funny after I wrote that and hit "submit" I then saw your pic and it looked the same.... lol!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Posted June 23, 2006 Share Posted June 23, 2006 Hey, what did you thin the paint out with? I've seen some sites on the net talking about this, they used mineral spirits. Whatever the hell that is, do they sell that at hardware stores or should I go into a bar...or a pub??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olie05 Posted June 23, 2006 Author Share Posted June 23, 2006 Hey, what did you thin the paint out with? I've seen some sites on the net talking about this, they used mineral spirits. Whatever the hell that is, do they sell that at hardware stores or should I go into a bar...or a pub??? lol! Yeah they sell it at hardware stores. And I think you're supposed to use acetone to thin it out with, but the mineral spirits works out fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlderThanMe Posted June 23, 2006 Share Posted June 23, 2006 it says mineral spirits or acetone. I read that the acetone flash dries too quick so you will have MORE wetsanding to do... a good sized can of mineral spirits is like $7 at home depot or lowes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z-TARD Posted June 23, 2006 Share Posted June 23, 2006 I've used mineral spirits for spraying with the rustoleum, and have had pretty good results. I haven't tried thinning with acetone yet, and so far I haven't seen a need to as the mineral spirits work very well. It gives the paint quite a bit of time to level out before flashing off, and dries to a pretty hard finish. For rolling, I would think that the acetone might have an adverse effect on the foam in the roller...... Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOTHALOSISM Posted June 23, 2006 Share Posted June 23, 2006 i bet you can also get some tint to add to it for different colors right? like a lime green rustolium? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olie05 Posted June 23, 2006 Author Share Posted June 23, 2006 I got around to sanding it with 800 grit and here is the money shot (I think) the accompanying pictures are in my album under the rustoleum section. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Posted June 24, 2006 Share Posted June 24, 2006 Thanks for the info, I'm gonna try it on something one day. How much mineral spirits did you mix to the paint? Like 10%? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z-TARD Posted June 24, 2006 Share Posted June 24, 2006 Thanks for the info, I'm gonna try it on something one day. How much mineral spirits did you mix to the paint? Like 10%? When spraying, I normally do more like 20%. Get it to the point where it runs off a stir stick just like water. I haven't tried rolling with it, but 10% sounds like it would be a good starting point. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z-TARD Posted June 24, 2006 Share Posted June 24, 2006 I got around to sanding it with 800 grit and here is the money shot (I think) Looks good man, now throw some turtle wax on it and take some more pics! Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlderThanMe Posted June 24, 2006 Share Posted June 24, 2006 indeed...I roll it at about 20-25%...just get a piece of scrap steel and experiment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olie05 Posted June 24, 2006 Author Share Posted June 24, 2006 indeed...I roll it at about 20-25%...just get a piece of scrap steel and experiment. I've been rolling it with almost 50/50 mix. It seems the less thinner I use, the more bubbles occur. I probably need more info on that though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Posted June 24, 2006 Share Posted June 24, 2006 I first heard about this rolling paint stuff here, http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=159142&start=0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest iceickle Posted June 24, 2006 Share Posted June 24, 2006 Well, that must be the same guy as in the mopar forums... the post is the same! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlderThanMe Posted June 25, 2006 Share Posted June 25, 2006 the mopear guy that has a charger also has a few bugs...makes sense...he also gives the link for the moparts thread for questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heavy85 Posted June 26, 2006 Share Posted June 26, 2006 Any reason to not just use a brush to make is smoother and avoid the bubbles? Waaaaaay back at least some cars were factory painted with a brush. Remember seeing one - it's engine had exposed valvetrain that you had to periodically manually squirt with an oil can. The paint on that car looked very smooth and shiny with just a hint of brush marks in a few spots. Cameron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olie05 Posted June 26, 2006 Author Share Posted June 26, 2006 hey guys, Here is the deal. I'm getting frustrated with all the wetsanding involved in this. I think I have put in a total of 10 hrs on ONE FENDER!!? I don't know if this is normal of any paint job, but I can't justify spending that much time on paint, which will not make my car go around an autox course any faster. My options for the rest of the car are as follows: 1) finish painting the car with this method, if a faster way of wetsanding makes itself apparent to me. 2) Paint the car with a gun... Yes, I have several friends with painting guns, and I could use the same paint. I am assuming that spraying it on will give a smoother surface and result in less wetsanding. (I HATE WETSANDING!) 3) abandon the project and let a reputable shop do paint it sometime down the line... (money is an issue) That being said, here is today's progress, which, contrary to my current attitude towads rolling on paint, is very positive. thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlderThanMe Posted June 26, 2006 Share Posted June 26, 2006 I still think you should have started wetsanding with 400 grit...would have speeded things up a little bit... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z-TARD Posted June 26, 2006 Share Posted June 26, 2006 I used an airbrush to paint this small test section on my car: This was a mix of red and yellow stops rust paint, thinned down about 20% with mineral spirits. I haven't tried a larger spray gun or HVLP setup yet, but I know that it sprays very well out of an airbrush. Just like any paint, it will run if sprayed on too thick. I did one light coat (Just enough to get full coverage) then waited about 10 or 15 minutes and shot another right on top of that. The next day I peeled off the tape and wet sanded with 400. New tape, sprayed another two coats and wated another day. Wet sanded again starting with 400 and worked down very quickly to 2000. IIRC the progression was something like 400, 800, 1000, 2000. Followed up by a layer of turtle wax and you get whats in the pic here. Gloss is very good, to my eye it looks just like vintage pre clear coat automotive paint from the 60's and 70's. I've had this spot on the side of my Z now since the original "Roller Painting" thread was posted like almost a year ago. Up until a few days ago it was still shiny and relatively free of scratches. It's FUBAR right now though because I just hacked up that rear quarter to make clearance for my tires under the ZG flares Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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