COZY Z COLE Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 Another great product from MM installed on my car and yes the alignment shop loved them. Fixed my rear from pulling to the right at WOT from a dead stop after the AFR heads were installed.... LARRY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v8260 Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 how much were they and where did u get them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COZY Z COLE Posted April 28, 2006 Author Share Posted April 28, 2006 http://www.modern-motorsports.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=68 LARRY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RB26powered74zcar Posted April 29, 2006 Share Posted April 29, 2006 Looks great... can't wait to put mine on the car. Is it hard to get the setting close so it can be driven to the shop without the rear coming around on me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COZY Z COLE Posted April 29, 2006 Author Share Posted April 29, 2006 Thanks... We took a measurement on each side of the old control arms and turned the adjusters of the new arms to that figure. At the alignment shop each side had to be adj. a few turns but it was a very quick fix. I'm not sure if this is the "right" way to do this but it worked for us. I hope that this is the last time messing with the damn spindle pins. We found that we had to add some washers for a snug fit on the large bushing end of the control arms during assembly. Also Ross doesn't supply those bushings and we ordered them from Summit. They were the cheapest I found and you have to order the rear control arm bushing kit so I have a few extra bushings. LARRY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RB26powered74zcar Posted April 29, 2006 Share Posted April 29, 2006 We found that we had to add some washers for a snug fit on the large bushing end of the control arms during assembly. Also Ross doesn't supply those bushings and we ordered them from Summit. They were the cheapest I found and you have to order the rear control arm bushing kit so I have a few extra bushings. LARRY Larry, can you explain the washer part again? not sure what you mean.... Also, the bushings. What bushing did you buy from Summit that fits our C/A? thanks - j. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COZY Z COLE Posted April 29, 2006 Author Share Posted April 29, 2006 http://store.summitracing.com/egnsearch.asp?Ntt=BUSHING+KITS+NISSAN&N=115&Nao=10&Ntk=KeywordSearch#rstop Summit part# ENS-7-3104G....$48.39 Summit sells many parts for models 240Z and up that are cheaper than most places. For the bushings they sell individual kits up to the complete kit. When we put the large bushings on there was still a small space on the control arm so that we added a few washers to make sure of no movement, also they provide a grease bag and make sure everything gets some so that you don't have any squeaks later. Here's another summit example, type in sway bar Nissan and you get http://store.summitracing.com/egnsearch.asp?Ntk=KeywordSearch&DDS=1&N=115&y=9&searchinresults=false&Ntt=sway+bar+nissan&x=26 LARRY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RB26powered74zcar Posted April 29, 2006 Share Posted April 29, 2006 WOW... thanks Larry. I had no idea Summit had parts for the Z car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PUSHER Posted April 29, 2006 Share Posted April 29, 2006 You use spindle pins with those right? Heard somewhere you dont and you just use bolts that come with the arms. Just want to make sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wondering Nomad Posted April 29, 2006 Share Posted April 29, 2006 WOW... thanks Larry. I had no idea Summit had parts for the Z car. Not to hijack the tread but...Summit has all kinds of parts. If you can find the manufacturer's part number and Summit carries their line, they can probably get the part for a reasonable price. They'll drop ship items not normally carried in stock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RB26powered74zcar Posted April 30, 2006 Share Posted April 30, 2006 You use spindle pins with those right? Heard somewhere you dont and you just use bolts that come with the arms. Just want to make sure. I can't see any way these arms could be used without spindle pins, unless you drilled and tapped your strut housing for bolts instead of pins, but I'm not sure that would work.... so, yes, you still use spindle pins with the MM control arms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COZY Z COLE Posted April 30, 2006 Author Share Posted April 30, 2006 I'll also confirm that you use the spindle pins but now to adjust the rear wheels you just have to have the wheels off the ground and wrench the adjusting nuts in or out.... About Summit carry Z parts, the parts they list are stocked with them. There is no drop shipping and you will notice they show the availible date next to the part if it is not in stock. I had to wait 3 weeks on my control bushings but the good news is it is now in stock at Summit. One big difference between Summit and MSA is that Summit will notify you when an item is not in stock and tell you when it ships with tracking info. LARRY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaleMX Posted April 30, 2006 Share Posted April 30, 2006 When I adjusted mine I loosened the bolt's on the spindle pin bushings. Made it a whole lot easier to adjust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COZY Z COLE Posted April 30, 2006 Author Share Posted April 30, 2006 Good point Dale, we did that too, I forgot to add that step. It reduces any binding during adjustment. LARRY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buZy Posted May 3, 2006 Share Posted May 3, 2006 Do you have to pull the spindle pins to install these arms? Brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COZY Z COLE Posted May 3, 2006 Author Share Posted May 3, 2006 Yes you do and then reinsert them into your new arms, hopefully for the last time.... LARRY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
240hoke Posted May 3, 2006 Share Posted May 3, 2006 Looking at the design it looks to me that if you are willing to sacrifice your stock control arms they could be cut off. After the ends are cutt off you can install the heim joints and thread them into the controll arm. This is just me looking at the picture though. This would be my approach If my spindle pins were frozen. The only reason to pull the spindle pins that i know of is to dismount the stock control arms and replace the outer bushings. Since the outer bushigns are replaced by the heim joints there really is no point... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COZY Z COLE Posted May 3, 2006 Author Share Posted May 3, 2006 You need the spindle pin. The control arm is not threaded. You slide the heim joint bolt thru the control arm. That's how you can adjust the wheel by turning the nuts in or out while the wheel is off the ground. The spindle pin secures the two heim joints. LARRY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
240hoke Posted May 3, 2006 Share Posted May 3, 2006 I said cut the control arm.... not the spindle pin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pop N Wood Posted May 4, 2006 Share Posted May 4, 2006 I said cut the control arm.... not the spindle pin. I think you are right. somewhere I saw a write up on the installation and Ross bragged that the old arms are cut away allowing the new ones to be installed without removing the pins from the strut. Must be a local thread somewhere because it is not on the MM website. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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