OlderThanMe Posted August 18, 2006 Author Share Posted August 18, 2006 Your right. It wil be expensive but it is soo effective that you don't need much of it at all. I may be able to get some refuse, scraps, or even some samples to use to make a prototype. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheeler Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 space-age, if your cooler works you will be rich, rich I say. Every Diesel made today is tuboed and intercooled (charge air cooled) not to mention the tuner market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlderThanMe Posted August 19, 2006 Author Share Posted August 19, 2006 dude.. you have no idea... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LLave Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 I would love to see some hard data on this thermal superconductor intercooler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlderThanMe Posted August 20, 2006 Author Share Posted August 20, 2006 I'll post a video of it...maybe. Here are the numbers... if you can figure that out. I have seen it first hand and what it can do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olie05 Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 I'll post a video of it...maybe.Here are the numbers... if you can figure that out. I have seen it first hand and what it can do. what numbers? i don't see no stinkin' numbers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlderThanMe Posted August 20, 2006 Author Share Posted August 20, 2006 oops...just a minute. BTU·ft/hr·ft2·° F: 65 if you can decipher that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veritech-z Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 intake temp in british thermal units, multiplied by air velocity in feet per hour (is that air inside the intercooler, or air through the intercooler?) multiplied by square footage of intercooler, multiplied by ambient air temperature in degrees farenheit equals 65-is that the correct way to interperet those values? but what unit is the answer given in, and what does it represent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proxlamus© Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 The ICAO International Standard Atmosphere standard conditions for zero density altitude are 0 meters (0 feet) altitude, 15 deg C (59 deg F) air temp, 1013.25 mb (29.921 in Hg) pressure and 0 % relative humidity ( absolute zero dew point). The standard sea level air density is 1.225 kg/m3 (0.002378 slugs/ft3). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veritech-z Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 Prox, you lost me buddy. I was trying to figure out what the equation OTM posted was supposed to tell us about his mystery metal intercooler material. I assumed it was supposed to give us some kind of heat exchange efficiency or something...How does that stuff fit in to his equation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlderThanMe Posted August 29, 2006 Author Share Posted August 29, 2006 Let me give an example...I have done this and it freaked me out. You put a block of this material on your hand. Once it is on your hand you put an ice cube on top of the block. In about 15-20 seconds the cube is completely melted and your hand is very cold. It sucks the heat out of your hand and puts it into the ice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veritech-z Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 That IS dramatic! I was just trying to understand what your equation actually represents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlderThanMe Posted August 29, 2006 Author Share Posted August 29, 2006 I know..and the price is too...but your intercooler can be VERY small. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjhines Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 even assuming the material conducts heat very well.... you still have to expose a lot of surface area to cool the air itself... It might see some minisculel reduction in size.... but if you are using an air to air intercooler... then it will still look like a standard intercooler... and it will be similarly sized. heat conductivity of the material will not greatly effect the size of the intercooler.... assuming you are using air/air exchange.... please explain how even a theoreticly PERFECT conductor would significantly reduce the size of the intercooler... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlderThanMe Posted August 30, 2006 Author Share Posted August 30, 2006 well saying you have an aluminium intercooler it still is keeping a bunch of temperature inside. Granted aluminium is a good conductor of heat but you eed the extra size of a larger intercooler to more effectively cool the charged air. If you can cool the charged air in a shorter time by having a more effective method of evacuating the heat from the charged air then you should be able use a smaller intercooler. This material has been proven as a radiator of heat. Am I wrong here? I believe the number was that this material conducts heat 17 times better than 1000 series aluminium does. Basically what I was told was that it tries to equalize the temperatures of everything it is touching. If you run a nitrous purge or Co2 setup on the intercooler then it will be much more effective at heating up the cooling agent (Co2 or Nos). I'll try to get some more info on it. I'll go look it up now in my stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proxlamus© Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 intake temp in british thermal units, multiplied by air velocity in feet per hour (is that air inside the intercooler, or air through the intercooler?) multiplied by square footage of intercooler, multiplied by ambient air temperature in degrees farenheit equals 65-is that the correct way to interperet those values? but what unit is the answer given in, and what does it represent? Standard temp is 59* F not 65* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjhines Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 Well... just consider that the material you make the intercooler out of is only a small part of the equation... Air itself is not a good conductor of heat... it requires flow and turbulence.... and large surface area exposure.... It must flow through the intercooler with minimal restriction.... on both sides of the exchange.... Add all this up and you are going to end up building an expensive custom intercooler that works pretty much like a cut up truck radiator... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veritech-z Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 Standard temp is 59* F not 65* That's what was given in OTM's equation, I was just trying to understand what it was. That was my best guess at trying to interperet what he gave us in post 27: BTU·ft/hr·ft2·° F: 65 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CybrStuff Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 I believe the number was that this material conducts heat 17 times better than 1000 series aluminium does. Frankly, I have a really hard time believing this. Alumin(i)um has a thermal conductivity of about 200 W/mK, so 17 times better than this is about 3400 W/mK. The most conductive metal is silver, with a conductivity of about 400 W/mK, so your material is clearly non-metallic. I have found some things that say that a carbon nanotube can get to 6600 W/mK at room temperature (compared to the paltry 3320 W/mK of pure diamond), but good luck making a radiator out of either of those. I'm calling shenanigans. No offense intended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veritech-z Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 OTM's away at school for awhile, so it may be some time before we get to hear what this stuff really is... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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