nazar Posted August 26, 2006 Share Posted August 26, 2006 Man this is a lot of work, but my new 33gal compressor and air tools make life much easier So everything on the car was done but the suspension was still haunting me, so i broke down and got to it I just finished stripping most of it off. Front removed strut, control arm, sway bar, t/c rods, steering tie rods, all bushings. Rear I am almost done but i cant get my passenger side spindle pin out, the drivers came right out, weird. Also i went to use a 27mm socket to get the axle nut off and it didnt fit, the nut is like a 32mm, making me think someone has done this before already, plus the axle spins very smoothly, makes me think someone already did bearings, damn and I just spend $140 on bearings I am swaping in a 280z stub axle, but getting the last few things off is a pita Also I ruined the threads on the driver side front strut housing axle, so now I need 1 new strut housing Parts going in: front already has 280zx hubs and AZC willwood brake kit Front--- 1" front sway bar ES end links ES bar mount TechnoToyTuning T/C rod Control arm bushings AZC bumpsteer spacer New ball joints New tie rods Ground control coilover 225lb Tokiko illuminas SPC camber bolt kit New upper strut bearings New wheel bearings Rear--- 280z stub axles New bearings Control arm bushings ground control coilovers 250lb Tokiko illuminas Disk brake conversion So I almost got all the parts off. Ruined 2 spindle pins and 1 strut housing in the process though. Damn I cant wait to get this thing up and runing, especially since before all the bushings were shot, shocks were blown, bearings were old, etc....the car should feel much better I hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikelly Posted August 26, 2006 Share Posted August 26, 2006 You won't even know its the same car... Suspension and brake improvements on these cars make for so much more enjoyment! mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nazar Posted August 26, 2006 Author Share Posted August 26, 2006 thats what im really hoping for, especialy when i finally get my passenger side spindle pin out, hahaa on a side note, i put all my stock suspension pieces that i will be reusing in my friends new parts washer, holy ♥♥♥♥ that thing is great, it stripped ALLL the paint, rust, grease, dirt off and the parts came out clean, bare metal, its awesome Control arms, strut housings, everything, so its gonna be cake to paint them I am painting them all anodized red and a bit of black here and there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlderThanMe Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 The first time I drove my Z with the new coilover suspension was awesome! It rode like a go kart instead of like a bus. Once I got my illuminas on the right numbers it handled very neutral through the corners with right foot oversteer...nice. I still have a lot to do to the front suspension though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nazar Posted August 31, 2006 Author Share Posted August 31, 2006 my illuminas will be here tomorow I finally am in the assembly stage, got all parts cleaned and painted, looks very nice, bushings all installed, sway bar mounted and now i gotta tackle the strut housings, coilovers, wheel bearings, etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a8ksh4 Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 I just started on my suspension rebuild today, too. I'm doing new bushings all around, tie rod ends and ball joints, 1"-f and 7/8"-r anti-roll bars, illuminas, and coilovers. I'm really looking forward to driving this thing when it's done. I've got the car jacked up now and am starting to disassemble the front end. Do you guys know, if I ask the muffler shop to weld the stops onto my strut tubes, do I have to worry about them warping the tubes or something if they suck? They can't be worse than me if they weld every day and I'd do it myslef if I had a welder handy. Also, I've been reading through alot of the old posts here; one of the regulars mentioned staying away from poly bushings at the tc-rod mounts (hayns calls them the radius rods). Anyone know why that is? Do they flex too much and break w/ the poly bushings? Cheers, --Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlderThanMe Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 there is a lot of travel going on with the radius rod and the poly doesn't want to travel and flex with it. This puts a lot o stress on the mount. I will be waiting to do an adjustable front suspension so I am not going to bother with those bushings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMortensen Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 Also, I've been reading through alot of the old posts here; one of the regulars mentioned staying away from poly bushings at the tc-rod mounts (hayns calls them the radius rods). Anyone know why that is? Do they flex too much and break w/ the poly bushings? I'm guessing that was me, and here's the reason why: http://forums.hybridz.org/showthread.php?t=87758 Use a poly in front and stock rubber in back and that should lessen the stress on the rod a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nazar Posted September 2, 2006 Author Share Posted September 2, 2006 Thats why for $200 i got some Technotoytuning T/C rods, they are badass looking, adjustable, beefy and are on a heim joint so they travel up and down effortlessly and smooth The front suspension is DONE and looks awesome On to the rear. I had a steel shop grind off the stock welds and weld on the ground control stop 2" below it, they know what they are doing and he did an awesome job welding it on, real clean, no warping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nazar Posted September 2, 2006 Author Share Posted September 2, 2006 PICTURE UPDATE mmm....tire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrFancypants Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 Hi Nazar: I noticed your parts list includes adjustable camber bolts vs. camber plates, allowing you to retain the stock upper isolator. Have you taken your car in for an alignment? Say for example you lowered the car 2-3", were you able to dial out enough camber to get back to 1-2* (neg) up front? Thanks, Greg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nazar Posted September 2, 2006 Author Share Posted September 2, 2006 i'll be going next week, this cam bolt setup only allows .75* each way, but its ok because I want aggressive camber, I may just be adding that actually I want about 2-2.5* camber up front. Guys, question: My adjustable T/C rod lets me do exactly what? Toe or Caster? And exactly what is caster good for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMortensen Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 i'll be going next week' date=' this cam bolt setup only allows .75* each way, but its ok because I want aggressive camber, I may just be adding that actually I want about 2-2.5* camber up front. [/quote'] $5 says you end up with about .75 degrees negative in front, 2 degrees neg or more in back. Guys, question: My adjustable T/C rod lets me do exactly what? Toe or Caster? And exactly what is caster good for? Search. Or read this: http://forums.hybridz.org/showthread.php?t=107794 I thought I already pointed you to that thread. Did you not read the whole thing the first time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubbleguinea Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 im jealous---those brakes looks SICK! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nazar Posted September 3, 2006 Author Share Posted September 3, 2006 $5 says you end up with about .75 degrees negative in front' date=' 2 degrees neg or more in back. Search. Or read this: http://forums.hybridz.org/showthread.php?t=107794 I thought I already pointed you to that thread. Did you not read the whole thing the first time? Even if im lowered 2 " up front? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMortensen Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 That's my guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nazar Posted September 3, 2006 Author Share Posted September 3, 2006 I just set the front on the ground with wheels.... I should have known, at the level drop i was at before, i had absolutely no suspension travel, especially now with bumpstops in(previous owner took them out) Hmmm....i either need sectioned struts or at least the camber plates for sure. damn.... How much more travel do the camber plates offer over stock upper perches??? Right now, with my ride height, and my energy suspension bushings in uncut, the car sits right where the bumpstop is touching the strut(mind you the bumpstop is a good 2" long) I am on 225lb rates up front, 250lb in the rear, how much suspension travel do i need to keep to not bottom out with those rates? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a8ksh4 Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 Dang, that's sexy stuff you've got there nazar. Camber plates should get you another 1.5" travel. Mine's about ready to go back together. I'll just stick w/ the rubber bushings for now on the tc rod (thanks Jon). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Careless Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 nazar i pm'd you but no one seems to get my pm's for some reason. what wheels are those? i love them. is it your car that is running the carbon ZG flares that i see on every website? i notice they are the same wheels. nevermind, i noticed they are centerline thrusters (Nice!!!) and they are not the same as the wheels in the carbon zg flare pic, but similar! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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