bradz240 Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 Has anyone tried using '93 Mustang 5 lug hubs and 11 3/4" rotors? They are a one piece unit that looks close to working. I have a used set I may try unless somebody has already determined they won't work. I couldn't find anything mentioning them by searching. Thanks! Brad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueovalz Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 Don't think this has been done yet (at least here on this site). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradz240 Posted August 31, 2006 Author Share Posted August 31, 2006 Guess I'll give it a try then. The bearings will inter change as the races are the same. They only cost $32.00 with races installed. Is there a list of what's been tried and doesn't work? Anybody want to start a list? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbc3 Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 I put Chevrolet 3rd gen Camaro hubs and rotors on the front of my car. It required changing one of the bearings and race and I had to source a custom inner grease seal. (tigerseal.com) I am using the Toyota 4 piston calipers. The offset of the rotors was off and I had to machine the caliper mounts to get them to line up. I also had to widen the opening of the caliper for the rotor to fit. It was somewhat of a PITA, but it seems to be working well for me so far. Jody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueovalz Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 Interesting info on the hub bearings. Keep us informed on how this turns out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sven Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 Brad, there was no 5 lug on the Mustangs until '94. Make sure you find out what those hubs are from if you ever want to find replacement parts down the road. Keep this thread updated with your progress! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evildky Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 Brad' date=' there was no 5 lug on the Mustangs until '94. Make sure you find out what those hubs are from if you ever want to find replacement parts down the road. Keep this thread updated with your progress![/quote'] the LX was 4 lug through 93 I know the 93 cobra had 5 lug and I believe all the alte fox body gt's wer 5 lug as well ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sven Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 the LX was 4 lug through 93 I know the 93 cobra had 5 lug and I believe all the alte fox body gt's wer 5 lug as well ? Evildky, I'm not sure what you mean there? I suspect he has a 94-up hub. I've owned several generations of Mustangs. Here's the rundown: *93 Cobra R's were 5 lug, but not the normal 93 Cobras. Several of my friends bought 93 Cobras new, and I worked on them- definitely 4 lug with an odd offset. 93R parts are now down to NOS, if he's modifying those instead of selling them I'd be surprised. The 93 Cobra R is extremely rare. *First gen 6 cylinders were 4 lug, while the V8 cars were 5. *69-73 were 5 lug *Mustang II (74-78) were 4 lug. *Fox body cars (79-93) were 4 lug, other than the SVO and Cobra R *All SN95 cars (94-03) were 5 lug *The current Mustang is 5 lug also Not trying to flame, just keeping the info correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradz240 Posted September 1, 2006 Author Share Posted September 1, 2006 Thanks for the heads up on the rotor identification. I'll have to research what they really are. Brad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradz240 Posted September 6, 2006 Author Share Posted September 6, 2006 I thought they were Mustang rotors and hubs because they were in a box that was for a '93 Mustang I had replaced rotors on several years ago (I never throw anything away). I rechecked the numbers on the box with the parts house. That's what I get for assuming. I have not been able to identify them as yet. They are 5 on 5 1/4. Not Ford, not Chevy not Chrysler. All I have to id them is the casting nubber which is BR 54 560. I haven't found a parts place that can id them from the casting number, so I guess this is a dead end. Brad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZROSSA Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 Had any more luck on this? Looks like an interesting way to get big brakes and the correct offset for my cobra R mags. Douglas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 jbc3 - the Camaro rotor idea seems to be one of the best-kept secrets in the Z front brake upgrade world. A friend of mine (not on HybridZ) tried this successfully many years ago with a Gen II Camaro (1970-1982) - I did not realize that it works for Gen III also. Do you have the specs (part numbers) for the inner bearing/race and grease seal? If the grease seal is a custom piece, we should consider a group buy. The OEM Datsun outer bearing should work OK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradz240 Posted November 2, 2006 Author Share Posted November 2, 2006 ZROSSA I have not been able to identify what the rotors actually came off of. But I have found a site which gives the dimensions of many rotors. It is http://www.dba.au. I'm now considering '97 Crown Victoria 11 1/2" or "98 Crown Victoria at 12.44" rotors. It looks like they would slip on the Z31 hubs and be pretty close to the right off set with some modification needed to the caliper monuting. Haven't been able to actually work on this yet though. Brad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZROSSA Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 Thanks for looking into it. Gues I will contunuie down the path I was already headed. Cheers, Douglas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbc3 Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Michaael, Its been a long time since I did the front rotors, but the inner bearing is exactly the same between the 3rd gen f-body and the 280Z. The outer bearing is one size smaller on the Datsun. The bearing and race was like $10. (A3 and A2 I believe) As far as the seal, I measured the seal surface and the inner diameter of the hub. Then I went to Tigerseal.com, downloaded their grease seal chart and they have one that matches. It was not one that he kept on the shelf, but I had it in less than a week. It has been on the car for over a year and I have had no issues at all. The seals were about $7 each. I should have ordered more than 2 when I did it at first, but I wasn't sure they were going to work. Then I never went back and ordered more.. Jody jbc3 - the Camaro rotor idea seems to be one of the best-kept secrets in the Z front brake upgrade world. A friend of mine (not on HybridZ) tried this successfully many years ago with a Gen II Camaro (1970-1982) - I did not realize that it works for Gen III also. Do you have the specs (part numbers) for the inner bearing/race and grease seal? If the grease seal is a custom piece, we should consider a group buy. The OEM Datsun outer bearing should work OK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbc3 Posted November 8, 2006 Share Posted November 8, 2006 Follow-up on my earlier post reference the Grease seal needed to install a 3rd gen f-body hub/rotor on a 280Z front spindle. Tiger Seal & Gasket Mfg Co. Inc. 2522 Connecticut Ave Kenner, LA 70062 504-464-0031 R-2 Seal 48 x 65 x 7 $ 5.75 each Jody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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