PapaCreech Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 alright was wondering has anyone ever adpated a different MAF to lets say oh i dotn know a . .. . 78 280? and lets just stay its fairly stock? in any event i was lookin at mine cleaning the flap b/c it was sticking (uhggg) and i noticed that that is a little tiny hole for air to b coming through feeding my engine, then i thought wow maybe i could bore it some. Then my more intelligent side said , no dummy you cnat, b/c the size of the hole is in a direct realtionship to how much air goes through that moves the flap that tells your engine, oh hell we need mroe fuel. SOOOO to make a long story short after some searching, I decided to ask my more knowledgable betters. So here i pose the question can the stock MAF b modified or exchanged for an aftermarket MAF? W/o changing to stand alone managment? If thie answer is yes i will b extremely surprised b/c after all my research it just downt seem doable. Anywho thanks for reading, and if i could id give all of you the time back i stole from your lifes just now. ROCK ON Z PEOPLE!!!!!1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapaCreech Posted January 20, 2007 Author Share Posted January 20, 2007 sigh replying to my own thread again. . . anywho what if the flap size was also incrased the same amount?. . . No never wouldnt work enging would then run lean(i think ). . . . my bad back to drawing board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big-phil Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 hmmmm, I don't think you can get rid of it with the stock ecu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z-ya Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 There are some that have figured out how to use a Z31 MAF with the turbo ECU. I'm pretty sure it is not just plug and play. A fair amount of modifications were required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexideways Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 You could swap your whole harness and ECU for Z31 components, there's a How to here: http://forums.hybridz.org/showthread.php?t=91250&highlight=Z31+harness+swap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mario_82_ZXT Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 you can also swap the guts into a 280zx afm. It's a larger bore I think. Edit: Ooops, did mean to say turbo 280zx... I was watching tv and doing homework and so I obviously can't multitask... Mario Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapaCreech Posted January 21, 2007 Author Share Posted January 21, 2007 thanks guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 fast z Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 TURBO AFM's are larger not just ZX's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony D Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 Megasquirt does take a MAF feedback signal... Why adapt it, and keep crappy stock mapping when you can go Megasquirt and have it all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapaCreech Posted January 21, 2007 Author Share Posted January 21, 2007 the reason i dont jsut say F$$$ it and go megasquirt is b/c im extremely nervous about tryign due to the nature of the beast. All the horror stories have me nervous b/c id have to get it done in a weekend or take time off to do it. And building the board and harness and such is kind daunting. ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mack Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 you know, for $600 I could adapt your stock harness and MAKE megasquirt plug and play for your car, with a pretty decent base map. That would be fuel only tho, becayse you dont have a turbo dist. to run spark. Also, you would have to switch to a 60MM 240SX TB with accompanying TPS sensor, other than that, it would be a plug and play, bolt in affair. and you could DITCH the stock AFM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapaCreech Posted January 21, 2007 Author Share Posted January 21, 2007 hmm then later i could add the turbo dizzy/ 240TB? and sense it already has a base map programmed I could plug an dplay out of the box? My wee little lap top died hmm may be interested ill talk to the ol lady bout it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 fast z Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 Last MS install took me 3 hours, with soldering everything. Tuning took me 20 minutes, and the customer was happy with what he got. ITs really not that hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
averynisbet Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 The Megasqirt ecu has a 12x12 fuel map while the stock z31 ecu has a 16x16. megasqirt needs extra stuff to do ignition but the stock z31 ecu does it already. The Z31 ecu can do nearly everything that megasqirt can do with some moding. look at http://www.redz31.com/pages/fuel/romulator.html and http://eccs.hybridka.com/ Some guys on hybrid ka are working on a maf to map swap, and some one some where has even reprogramed them to use wide band O2. So with a little know how the stock Z31 can do a lot. It's also very cheap if you can find the parts at a cheap junk yard. maybe even less than $100 of everything and bigger injectors. -Avery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktm Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 Just tagging this thread for future use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexideways Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 You could swap your whole harness and ECU for Z31 components, there's a How to here: http://forums.hybridz.org/showthread.php?t=91250&highlight=Z31+harness+swap The Megasqirt ecu has a 12x12 fuel map while the stock z31 ecu has a 16x16.megasqirt needs extra stuff to do ignition but the stock z31 ecu does it already. The Z31 ecu can do nearly everything that megasqirt can do with some moding. look at http://www.redz31.com/pages/fuel/romulator.html and http://eccs.hybridka.com/ Some guys on hybrid ka are working on a maf to map swap, and some one some where has even reprogramed them to use wide band O2. So with a little know how the stock Z31 can do a lot. It's also very cheap if you can find the parts at a cheap junk yard. maybe even less than $100 of everything and bigger injectors. -Avery My point exactly... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony D Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 Most cars will run fine and pass emissions on an 8X8 table. 12X12, and 16X16 is really only there for the emissions requirements of an OEM---it's a lot of 'extra load point programming' that really doesn't need to be there, IMO. So that's really a moot point. Wigert got the Vector to pass US OEM Emissions Requirements with an 8X8 TEC2 system...and that was a 650HP Twin Turbo V8! With what I've seen, the Z31 swap is as involved as the MS, and with all the extra stuff you need to have to program it, the MS is as plug-n-play if not more so than the Z31 conversion. There are mods and extra stuff required for both system to work, it's not like you simply plug in a Z31 ECU and start tuning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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