Guest 1fastz Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 Who makes large brakes for our cars and also coil over kits.. list every manufacture you know please. I have the toyota conversion but i think its going to take a bit more then that to haul me down from 165 miles an hour . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kc6wfs Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 Check Ross C's site.. Sounds like a sweet motor!!!!!!!!!!!! Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 1fastz Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 thyanx its a big cube small block motown block 4.165 bore 3.875 stroke 13- 1 compresion with brodix 18 degree heads fully ported for 379 cfm intake 255 exhaust.. + a plate kit 300 shot of nos. exspect to see 8 second quarters no problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S30Z Bushido Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 woah! sounds awesome. have any pics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest scca Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 Big brakes.. how big do you wanna go? my stage #3 are "only " 12.2x1.25" and they are originally for GT2 and Late model stock cars. they routinely will see 150+ every lap ( on a large track ) so i would think they would easily handle your application. if you wanted larger rotors you can increase to 13" or 14" or even larger depending on the rim size. i dont post the brembo stuff online but thats available as well but if its a street car not really any point in spending $4-5k on one end of brakes-- that is unless you have unlimited funds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dp351zcar Posted May 22, 2002 Share Posted May 22, 2002 If only I had your problems. Don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted May 22, 2002 Share Posted May 22, 2002 1fastz are you still runing that z without a cage? 1000HP!!!!! you gonna rip it in half man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modern Motorsports Ltd Posted May 22, 2002 Share Posted May 22, 2002 Originally posted by 1fastz:Who makes large brakes for our cars and also coil over kits.. 1fastz, I do big brakes & coilovers as well. Feel free to drop me a line. We can go over your setup/goals and devise a suitable setup for your needs if you'd like. I typically only use PBR style DOT approved aluminum calipers which are in use on many race setups for heavier cars so stand up great on ours with great service life on daily's like my own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted May 22, 2002 Share Posted May 22, 2002 Arizona Z Car manufactures racing parts for guys just like you. Goto www.arirzonazcar.com to check out all his stuff. I was at his shop this week and has has realy nice stuff. 4 and 6 piston brake set ups with 11"-13" rotors, etc... he also has full suspention kits to get your car steering through the corners as well. He's been in the buis for 15 years and has been hooked on z cars for over 20. Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikelly Posted May 22, 2002 Share Posted May 22, 2002 ZF Racing can handle all your control arm needs... We make them VERY adjustable and competitively priced! Mike Kelly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JAMIE T Posted May 23, 2002 Share Posted May 23, 2002 1000hp!!! You guys that run that stuff on the street make me keep mine in the garage!!! One local guy has a Big Thumper turbo'd mustang that makes 1600hp. He bought his set-up from a Pro 5.0 racer when the system got outlawed by the NMRA. Rumer is he paid 10K for the turbo system. As far as brakes, I just finished mocking up my fronts. I used Ebay bought Wilwood Superlite calipers, they are 1.75" 4 piston units. I then went to StockCarProducts here in VA(their on the web) and picked up(they had to order it) an undrilled rotor hat and a 1.38"x12.19" rotor. The hats center hole is 2.78" and come drilled, but the lug nut holes do not. It it a 2" deep hat. I turned my hub(hubcentric) down on a lathe to make it smooth fit, then drilled the 4 lug holes using a transfer punch using the hub as a guide. So now I have slip on front rotors and huge light wieght calipers for pretty cheap. I think I've got under $400 in the front brakes, but that includes my Ebay bargain calipers, they cost me $130.00 for the pair. They retail for that much each. But still my car will see some Road race duty, and these brakes are still alittle over kill. Also, I've noticed alot of guys here bragging how light their calipers are(mine are light too), but my rotors are real heavy(as are theirs), and to me, it doesn't matter how light your caliper is if your rotor(reciprocating weight) weighs an a$$load. I know that they are heavy to dissipate heat, and the shear size of the things warrants it, but guys, don't dog out those who have 4x4 calipers "because they are heavy". I think the set-up with the 300ZX rotor and the 4x4 caliper is good for a street car. As for 1fastZ, I'd bet that Mike/SCCA's set-up with the 300ZX front rotors and hubs and the Outlaw 2800 series calipers is more, or at least as much brakes as any Pro Stock drag car has. If your still running drums in the rear, upgrade them to discs when you do the fronts. Plus the 'chute will help slow you down also And like someone else here said, please cage that thing, if it isn't already!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottie-GNZ Posted May 23, 2002 Share Posted May 23, 2002 Jamie, excellent, excellent points, especially the one about lightweight calipers and heavy rotors. Reminds me of a discussion I was involved in a while back on spending hundreds for a carbon-fiber driveshaft to reduce rotating mass and ignoring the flywheel. There is a tendency for folks to think that the hi-po parts they put on their street cars has to match that of a race car. Granted, there are benefits, e.g., to having a 8lb race-type rotor over an OEM 12lb rotor, but for a street-driven car that sees the drag strip occassionaly or even one that spends a lot of time at the drag strip, I just do not think it is warranted. If you are autocrossing, spend time road racing, running through the canyons, or going dangerously fast on the street, there is no question you should have it. I have 82-83 ZXT calipers, 300ZX vented rotors and KVR pads and that is plenty brakes for my purpose. I do not ever find myself in a situation on the street (IOW, I do not street race) where I need more and if I wanted to brake real hard, I could make the 1st turn off at the strip even after 125+. However, I plan to upgrade my fronts to 12" to match the rears and not look "ricey" with 17s over stock-sized Z brakes . If anyone is interested, my front brakes will be replaced soon and I will part with them cheap. Yeah, I know, blatant plug . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pparaska Posted May 23, 2002 Share Posted May 23, 2002 Yep, good point. Alot seems to depend on what people use for rotor hats as well as the rotor. My AZ Z car (old) wilwood kit has AL hats/hub adapters and the parts are quite light. But a Z disc and drum are light too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JAMIE T Posted May 23, 2002 Share Posted May 23, 2002 Thanks guys. It didn't dawn on me until I had the parts in my hand. I was like "damn, this caliper sure is light". Then when I got the rotor(its huge, 1.38"x12.19") I couldn't beleive how heavy it was. I haven't weighed it yet, but when all of the parts are bolted together, it's heavy. I even have Al. hats. The guys at work(were I do most of my fabrication work) gave me a hard time for wanting to put "mack truck" brakes on a little 'ole Zcar. When I told them it was Nascar type stuff, they quited down I know the guys at Stock Car Products by name, and they give me jobber pricing now(I have been spending alot of money there lately) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 1fastz Posted May 24, 2002 Share Posted May 24, 2002 well i actualy have a set of four FOUR PISTON JFZ trans am series calipers here. they are all aluminum units.. they are HUGE .. but im not sure how I would bolt them up .. IF i had a dam lathe and machine shop i could make anything i need but i dont 8( these calipers would work bad ass if i could get rotors that would fit them front and rear. then A simple coil over kit would work most likley .. but after looking at all the problems im runing into im SOOOOO considering selling my Z and then starting with something that has just off the shelf parts for the kind of times i want to run < mid 8s > like a mustang or a camaro .. being that i run a chasis dyno and am a mechanic at a perfomance shop .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottie-GNZ Posted May 24, 2002 Share Posted May 24, 2002 Look at my post titled "Design Engineers:...". I am pursuing 12" Corvette C4 brakes for the front. MikeC just posted a pic of his Z with 62 Impala drum brake hubs. I plan to go that route or make my own adaptor. If I recall, those brakes you have are the 1LE 12" option and you do not need BAD ASS brakes. You already got them and just need to figure out how to fit them. Sorry if I get soppy here, but I am amazed at the amount of information being shared in this little community. SIMPLY AWESOME!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 1fastz Posted May 25, 2002 Share Posted May 25, 2002 heh these calipers are WAY WAY lager then the ones on the 1-le they have 4 large pistons in them ill have to post a pic. I meant these calipers are used in the transam racineg series. its what jfz made them for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modern Motorsports Ltd Posted May 25, 2002 Share Posted May 25, 2002 1fastz:heh these calipers are WAY WAY lager then the ones on the 1-le It's not necessarily the size that counts , a 4 piston caliper with 1.5" pistons exerts equal force as a floating caliper with two 1.5" pistons on one side assuming pad sizes/line pressures etc are equal. Many late model PBR's are 1.75" pistons like the LS1. Z06's run an updated PBR setup and I know a few personally that have racing experience and have tracked that car with only applause for their brakes (LS1 & Z06). Nothing against multipiston calipers etc....I often feel we're mislead by chasing 6 pistons etc when the factory's done a fine job already. Another part that can be misleading is pad sizes on floating calipers are typically the same and often larger than the physical caliper itself as caliper only has to house the pistons. 4 piston fixed calipers are physically a lot larger for same pistons etc as the caliper also houses the brake pad so both may have equal potential while one may appear quite differently. Picture the entire 1LE setup (as pads go nearly end to end of what's pictured) wrapped by a caliper and it would be quite visually different. No knock on your calipers intended at all, if I had 'em I'd likely be looking to mount them as well , it's always nice mounting extra aluminum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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