slyhog22056 Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Didnt need drive shaft angles need to know at what angle the motor tilts back when the car is at rest. I think it is 3* because that is the angle my intake is milled at but not certain.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
74_5.0L_Z Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Three degrees will work fine. Mine is installed with the tail shaft angled 2.5 degrees down. Just make sure that you adjust the angle of the differential to match the angle of the engine or you will have vibration problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slyhog22056 Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Thank you, that is what i thought but wasnt sure. now to just get the crossmember notched out, braced and welded back up so i can get the front down far enough. Looks like my drive shaft wont be any shorter than the original one but i am definetly going to use the ford driveshaft and mill a adapter plate to bolt onto the diff end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
74_5.0L_Z Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Why go to the trouble of milling an adapter when there are one's available for purchase (reasonably priced). Here is one of many threads that discuss driveshafts: http://forums.hybridz.org/showthread.php?t=75715&highlight=neapco The part number(s) for the adapter is given within. There are two flanges available for the R200 and two different adapters. Make sure you measure so that you get the correct one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7MGFORCE Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 wait i was reading about your post and the site and saw that you said your running about 325 real hp. and i was looking at your post on where you upgraded the fuel lines but i didnt see it. did you use the stock lines? how much hp is the stock lines rated for? i have read that you need bigger lines for carbed engine? i plan on running mallory 110gph pump and was wondering if i could use the stock fuel lines for feed and return. i plan to run around 300-350 whp/wtq Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustChou Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 Does your carb setup have a return line? My 600cfm Holley Street Avenger doesn't have a return. I've read of extensive hp numbers being supported by stock lines as long as you run a high pressure pump and a regulator closer to the carb. Make sure you isolate the pump properly. I didn't and now my fuel pump is REALLY LOUD in the car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7MGFORCE Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 Does your carb setup have a return line? My 600cfm Holley Street Avenger doesn't have a return. I've read of extensive hp numbers being supported by stock lines as long as you run a high pressure pump and a regulator closer to the carb. Make sure you isolate the pump properly. I didn't and now my fuel pump is REALLY LOUD in the car. ill be using my edelbrock 600 cfm. and no return but i plan to run a return style mallory regulator and i figure that much. but since i will be running carb set up with a fuel pump that push 7psi max i am unsure if the stock lines can support it. if it cant then i guess ill convert everything to 1/2 now. but if i can skip it now it then cool i would rather upgrade it later when i need to and spend the extra cash for the more needed item. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slyhog22056 Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 I just used a procomp 7 psi, 180 GPH pump and their regulator with return line off of the regulator back to the take, my holley 650 only needs 5 psi to run right and the 3/8" lines are good for that much. Make sure you run a return line so the pump can run continously, making the pump cycle on and off with the internal preset pressure relief is bad for a fuel pump and it relies on continous fule flow to cool the pump., i know, burned up several pumps that way. all pump manufacturers recommend this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7MGFORCE Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 I just used a procomp 7 psi, 180 GPH pump and their regulator with return line off of the regulator back to the take, my holley 650 only needs 5 psi to run right and the 3/8" lines are good for that much. Make sure you run a return line so the pump can run continously, making the pump cycle on and off with the internal preset pressure relief is bad for a fuel pump and it relies on continous fule flow to cool the pump., i know, burned up several pumps that way. all pump manufacturers recommend this. i thought the stock feed lines where 5/16? what size is the return?smaller isnt it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slyhog22056 Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 My fuel lines on my 76 are 3/8" feed and return, the line that ran from the evap canister is a 5/16" line, that was what was in the car when i got it, only 1 of the 2 larger lines were hooked up to fuel system when i got it, it had already had the fuelinjection removed and 3 webers on the motor when i got it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJLamberson Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 Makes me start to daydream about what I could do with that 351W I have that Im not doing anything with.... I dont need this right now! arrgh!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7MGFORCE Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 My fuel lines on my 76 are 3/8" feed and return, the line that ran from the evap canister is a 5/16" line, that was what was in the car when i got it, only 1 of the 2 larger lines were hooked up to fuel system when i got it, it had already had the fuelinjection removed and 3 webers on the motor when i got it. is that just on the 280z? b/c from what ive read the 240z comes with 5/16 feed/return but i have an early 260z 74. so i guess i have 5/16 lines. would 5/16 even handle over 300whp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slyhog22056 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 According to the calculator i looked up 25' of 3/8" steel tubing running 7 psi will flow 7 gal/minute, with a pressure drop of about .5 psi, 25" of 5/16" steel tubing running 7 psi will flow 4.8 gal/minute with a pressure drop of about .65 psi. If you have a motor that can run that kind of flow through it even with a return line i wanna see that intake system...lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwikrex Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 Excellent writeup Z8driver, will no doubt be infinitely valueable to me as I start my project. I did have a quick question. I've heard mention of the "universal" transdapt ford small block crossmember being used, and I was wondering why you didn't go that route. Forgive me if it's mentioned somewhere, I did some searching in this thread and on your site and didn't find mention of it. Obviously your piece looks much stouter but I may not have the tools/resources available to me to build one like that. So I'm considering other options which might be a bit more pedestrian and easily available. Again, excellent writeup, and beautiful car! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z8driver Posted April 14, 2009 Author Share Posted April 14, 2009 qwikrex - That's a good question about the Transdapt. I think one of these could be made to work, and it could save some fabrication. The trick would be to make the ends so that it could support the weight and torque of the motor when attached to the sheet metal "frame" of the Z-car. Based on the small pad size that they provide at the end of the tubes, it looks like the Transdapt was designed to be attached to real frame members. If you use one, I would recommend using a big chunk of angle at each side that goes over the Z's frame and bolts front and rear - then attach the Transdapt to the angle. I would think it would mount quite a ways below the top of the frame. Keep in mind that as you accelerate, the drivers side of the motor wants to lift up while the passenger side is pushing down. Good luck with your project - let me know how it goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuggy88 Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 I have a very similar set up in my 5.0 Z. But my welds do not look near as clean haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellow73 Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 :wc:wow ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick M Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 I just got part way through your write up of your Ford small block installation in the 240Z and wanted to the compliment you on the quality of your text and photos. This is a swap I've contemplated for some time for the same reasons you noted and I hope to start one in the near future. Nicely done and I think this will be very helpful. I especially appreciate you sharing the lessons learned. Rick M. Goleta, CA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tophatperformance Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 This is the best write up I have ever seen. I signed up just to say that. I have done lots of RB swaps in Z cars and now I think I will try a 302 Turbo swap. Thanks alot for sharing all this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twoeightnine Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 Thats a really fun read. Like going through time but really compressed!! Ha! Most of the "next time" things in your article have been suffered through by thoes before you. But I'm so glad to see that not only did you have the fortitude and patients to get through it, but the machine shop and other resources to add options as well. I used the famous Ansil (sorry if my spelling blows) cross member and stuffed precision gear LSD guts into the diff. Other wise I fell inline with your build. Dont get me wrong, still not finished. Needs paint and interior. We have a two year old daughter and made a move out of state right before that. Blah, blah. Beautiful Z mang. Very nice. Thanks for the info. That was fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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