bonfire79 Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 Hey fellas, This is my first time posting on Hybrid z. I usually spend most of my time over on zcar.com, but I like this site too I recently talked to Dave over at Rebello racing and we talked about a possible motor build for my 280z which is a daily driver. I have a budget around $5000 or so. Here is what Dave had to offer - a new 3.0 L block, stroker crank, camshaft of my choice, turbo oil pump (included), new valvetrain components, pistions, rods, springs, lifters, etc... And a complete port/polish job on my current N42 head. He also said they would do the megasquirt upgrade for $1K, but I don't think i can afford it on top of everything else. Dave quoted me $4500 to do the whole thing, and as an added bonus, he said I could just send him my head instead of my whole engine since I live in North Carolina and shipping will be $$$. I have read alot of posts about the pros/cons of doing stroker motors vs. turbo setups. Seems like most people prefer the turbo setups. What I really like about Rebellos' offer is that the entire engine will be completely rebuilt with professional quality. However, it sounds so much cheaper to go the turbo route.. on that note, if I went ahead with a turbo engine swap, I would probably want that engine rebuilt since it would most likely come out of a junk yard and might be in not-so-good-condition. Another thing that I have thought about is doing a bolt on turbo setup to my existing NA engine. I am not quite sure if this is a good idea though. I have heard that is possible if I get the right turbo parts. - AFM, ecu, wiring harness, Turbo unit, downpipe, and exhaust manifold etc. As long as I don't go too high on boost, it should be okay. This is what I've been told. I told Dave what my goals were and what I was looking for in HP and drivability on the street and that my car is a daily driver. Nothing insane, but I do want to be able to survive on the track should I decide to go there. I have the money in my hands, am I am ready to give my Z some kick, whichever route I go. What do you guys think? The pic is of my car. People see the hood and ask me what's under it... I always hate saying "it's got the stock motor in it" They expect me to say V8! Thanks, Bon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Challenger Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 With $5000 you can get a well built turbo motor, and get alot more power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlderThanMe Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 Welcome to HybridZ! You could do a 3.0 turbo... Since the motor would get new pistons, just put in lower compression pistons. You can run it N/A until you get the turbo stuff ready to go on. That is my suggestion. Rebello puts out some pretty sweet motors. Their 3.2 with tripple Webers sounds incredible! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Careless Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 As a Graphic Designer, I'm actually quite impressed that you had the patience to use the paintbrush to block out that entire background on the second picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonfly Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 Welcome to HybridZ! You could do a 3.0 turbo... Since the motor would get new pistons, just put in lower compression pistons. You can run it N/A until you get the turbo stuff ready to go on. That is my suggestion. Thats the idea I like best... ^^^ Beyond that IMHO for equal dollars applied ($5000) you will have a more forgiving and streetable engine/car if you go turbo. I personaly have a 3.0L stroker that I built (but Dave Robello had his fingers into at one time) and if you want a car that slaps you in the back the second you touch the throttle and roars at the same time the stroker is the way to go. Dragonfly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
240Z_Master Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 You could go RB25DET with 5k ish... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PanzerAce Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 Well, I have a 3.0 Rebello, and I love it. I have the triple 44PHHs on there, and when you pin the throttle at ~4000 rpm, the whole world knows it That being said, I'm going to agree with whoever suggested a L30et setup, as it seems to be the best of both worlds (unless you are attached to carbs, like I am). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerryb Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 My first engine was a stroker with Mikunis. It was a great set-up, real kick ass BUT....it was moody rough and loud....so I went RB20DET. Much better and easy to live with. I say turbo a stroker if that old schools triple carb appearance isnt important to you. Best of both worlds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rxKaffee Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 Do we have access to any reliable dynographs for either the Rebblo or home-made stroker kits for the L-series? I'd love to see just "where" the torque is with these solutions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnc Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 Think of it this way: A high horsepower, normally aspirated engine is like an Italian mistress: Extremely exciting, high strung, tempermental, erotic, and something you have we dreams about. But she's not something you can live with for any length of time. A high horsepower turbo engine is like a German mistress: Reliable, predictable, very skilled, comfortable, strong as an ox, and something you can live with forever. But she isn't the something that gives you wet dreams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerryb Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 Very nicely put John! Think of it this way: A high horsepower, normally aspirated engine is like an Italian mistress: Extremely exciting, high strung, tempermental, erotic, and something you have we dreams about. But she's not something you can live with for any length of time. A high horsepower turbo engine is like a German mistress: Reliable, predictable, very skilled, comfortable, strong as an ox, and something you can live with forever. But she isn't the something that gives you wet dreams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zekialstone Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 Think of it this way: A high horsepower, normally aspirated engine is like an Italian mistress: Extremely exciting, high strung, tempermental, erotic, and something you have we dreams about. But she's not something you can live with for any length of time. A high horsepower turbo engine is like a German mistress: Reliable, predictable, very skilled, comfortable, strong as an ox, and something you can live with forever. But she isn't the something that gives you wet dreams. This is an ancient post and I apologize for bumping. I just had to say this post has convinced me to get a stroker. I want my Z to be a wild woman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kce Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 (edited) This is an ancient post and I apologize for bumping. I just had to say this post has convinced me to get a stroker. I want my Z to be a wild woman. This is a bit off topic... but where in Alaska are you? I'm down in Southeast. I didn't think there was anyone else living in AK here on the forums. Edited March 31, 2012 by kce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zekialstone Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 This is a bit off topic... but where in Alaska are you? I'm down in Southeast. I didn't think there was anyone else living in AK here on the forums. I work in Prudhoe Bay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z240 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 (edited) Mr Coffee, I am framing your quote and putting it on my shop wall, with your permission of course, with due credit. When another person asks "why don't you just turbo it?" I can just point now, instead of getting into a long discussion.... Edited July 13, 2012 by z240 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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