stony Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 I'm not going to post this up in the for sale area just yet as it is kinda specific to this area. Well I went ahead and ordered a set of Brian crower billet rods. I thought I had HKS rods till I removed them and looked at them… They are actually Carrillo rods. I have 5 good ones and if you buy a new rod from Carrillo to replace the bad one it will cost 385 plus shipping…. Anyone interested in the set of 5???? 300.00????? What about a stock r32 crank with a oil pump mod done to it? Needs to be turned 100.00????? You may ask why you don’t just do that yourself... Well im kind of in a time crunch and the Carrillo rod is at least a month out, the crower rods will be here next week. Another reason is I don’t have any really good MACHINE shops up here in Alaska I could trust with a crank they have never worked with before. 3RD I’m going to step it up some and I want to make sure the rods are up to the task. So if anyone out there is interested let me know. I will have the crank out of the block by the end of the week. Rods are ready to go now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RB26powered74zcar Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 What happened to the other deal on the new rods? I have Carrillo's also.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted May 2, 2008 Author Share Posted May 2, 2008 The eagle rods i can still get for 550 plus shipping but for another 200 i can get billets.... what would you do? Im looking at turning 9K rpm and 30+PSI so that is just a little bit of piece of mind for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Careless Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 by billet do you mean billet aluminum? I'm not sure if it's anything worth mentioning because, sadly, you've taken apart your engine more times in the car's downtime than many people have throughout their entire race-life with one car/engine. but aluminum rods will be out of round and stretch beyond acceptable tolerances after about 75 - 85 passes, and really bad by about 100. Especially at 8,000+ rpm which is conservative given your full tune JUN head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted May 2, 2008 Author Share Posted May 2, 2008 The industry standard by which other rods are measured. Manufactured exclusively from USA made, 4340 billet chromoly steel. The standard billet rod is the strongest, most durable rod, and is intended for high horsepower applications. And for the record I have changed a HG just before this latest rod bearing thing. Not sure where you got this from???? I'm not sure if it's anything worth mentioning because, sadly, you've taken apart your engine more times in the car's downtime than many people have throughout their entire race-life with one car/engine Now it has been in and out of the car many times for mock up stuff but that’s about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyice Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 i think i know of a good machine shop i could trust...do you mind PM'ing me some info on what needs to be done to it and i might actually have one that would do it for me at a good price...also where did you pick up the billets from? im going above 9,000 and closer to 35-40 PSI and want some assurance as well lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Careless Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 Not sure where you got this from???? Now it has been in and out of the car many times for mock up stuff but that’s about it. sowwie but aren't the HKS also 4340? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheftrd Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 sowwie but aren't the HKS also 4340? HKS=Carrillo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
synthtk Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 That is a great price on the Crower rods, and an excellent price for your Carillos, hope someone jumps on this, I would if I was still keeping the 26. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Careless Posted May 3, 2008 Share Posted May 3, 2008 HKS=Carrillo ok, so the Eagle's are not billets then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted May 3, 2008 Author Share Posted May 3, 2008 All Eagle "ESP" Connecting Rods are manufactured from a TWO-PIECE FORGING. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted May 3, 2008 Author Share Posted May 3, 2008 And im not going with eagle because i got a really good price on the crower rods....that is all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted May 3, 2008 Author Share Posted May 3, 2008 From eagles website... as far as i could tell eagle dosnt make billet rods. Nissan “ESP†H-Beam Connecting Rods “ESP†connecting rods are forged from 4340 steel and utilize 3/8†ARP2000 bolts with alignment sleeves for a perfect fit. Packaged in weight-matched sets (+/- 1g). Sizing is done on the state of the art Sunnen Krossgrinding™system. “ESP†connecting rods are the perfect choice for engines up to 900 HP(4 cylinder) or 1500HP (6 Cylinder). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Careless Posted May 3, 2008 Share Posted May 3, 2008 ahhh i see. i thought the eagles were single piece and machined into form. are tomei's forged two piece then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheftrd Posted May 3, 2008 Share Posted May 3, 2008 One piece or two piece makes little difference as long as you get the grain to flow in a "hoop" around the big end. This is one area where forged rods beat out billets. Billets have the grain going in one direction, where forged rods can make the material denser and shape the grain to be stronger relative to the direction it will be stressed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Careless Posted May 3, 2008 Share Posted May 3, 2008 One piece or two piece makes little difference as long as you get the grain to flow in a "hoop" around the big end. This is one area where forged rods beat out billets. Billets have the grain going in one direction, where forged rods can make the material denser and shape the grain to be stronger relative to the direction it will be stressed. that's what i've been hearing too. SPOOL rods are two piece and have the big end punched out to redirect the grain direction, making it "like a knot in wood" Anyone who's tried to hand-saw wood will attest to the multiplication of strength required to saw through those little buggers and the wood surrounding 'em Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z24O Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 that's what i've been hearing too. SPOOL rods are two piece and have the big end punched out to redirect the grain direction, making it "like a knot in wood" Anyone who's tried to hand-saw wood will attest to the multiplication of strength required to saw through those little buggers and the wood surrounding 'em if anyone is interested in buying a set of Spool rods to suit an RB30 i am selling a brand new,unused set willing to ship stateside and take paypal PM me if anyone's keen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted June 9, 2008 Author Share Posted June 9, 2008 Rods are gone. i think i know of a good machine shop i could trust...do you mind PM'ing me some info on what needs to be done to it and i might actually have one that would do it for me at a good price...also where did you pick up the billets from? im going above 9,000 and closer to 35-40 PSI and want some assurance as well lol The crank spun a rod bearing. The bearing material needs to be removed and all the journals polished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted June 13, 2008 Author Share Posted June 13, 2008 Rods are gone anyone interested in the crank???? new one will cost 800+ this one could be turned and cleaned up for ??? 100 bux??? Not playing with ebay anymore there fees are outrageous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted June 16, 2008 Author Share Posted June 16, 2008 Here are some pics of the crank. I would say it should be savable BUT I would guess you would have to have someone do it that knows rb cranks and how much can be taken off. at any rate I figure someone would want to try. 50 Bux + shipping takes it. backyard oil pump mod!!! Ugly but i guess it works. I would have a machine shop take that off and do the collar mod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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