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All my book says is 14010207 is a 80-85 350 and it could be a 2 or 4 bolt main block.

 

http://www.chuckschevytruckpages.com/casting.html

 

Thanks, i couldnt find it in the book i got it only talked about bowties and didnt help. i havent torn it down yet been waiting to have time to might get it donw this weekend.

 

if i use some vortec heads off a truck could i use a aftermarket tpi intake mani? might go tpi instead of carbed.

 

thanks again

 

Thomas

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As long as the intake manifold has the "vortec" bolt pattern it will work with vortec heads.

Like these ones.

 

http://store.summitracing.com/egnsearch.asp?N=700+4294925239+4294839079+4294822100+4294908395+4294908216+4294840140+4294889107+4294901803+115

 

You also have the option to get new vortec heads if you dont feel like putting junkyard parts on.

 

http://store.summitracing.com/egnsearch.asp?Ntt=vortec&N=700+4294925232+4294838998+115+4294867081&Ntk=KeywordSearch

Thanks, i couldnt find it in the book i got it only talked about bowties and didnt help. i havent torn it down yet been waiting to have time to might get it donw this weekend.

 

if i use some vortec heads off a truck could i use a aftermarket tpi intake mani? might go tpi instead of carbed.

 

thanks again

 

Thomas

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As long as the intake manifold has the "vortec" bolt pattern it will work with vortec heads.

Like these ones.

 

http://store.summitracing.com/egnsearch.asp?N=700+4294925239+4294839079+4294822100+4294908395+4294908216+4294840140+4294889107+4294901803+115

 

You also have the option to get new vortec heads if you dont feel like putting junkyard parts on.

 

http://store.summitracing.com/egnsearch.asp?Ntt=vortec&N=700+4294925232+4294838998+115+4294867081&Ntk=KeywordSearch

 

 

yea i thought about that. Half the people i know are like "you dont need to spend that much on heads" im like.... stock heads dont flow good past like .420 lift i hurd. I dont know about stock vortecs tho, i will probably end up getting heads like those tho.

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http://www.chevyhiperformance.com/techarticles/148_0506_gm_bow_tie_vortec_small_block_engine/index.html

 

don,t ignore the far better large port versions I linked to earlier in this thread

 

Theres a guy in the gen III and IV chevys putting a ls1 intake on a block with vortec heads i think and i was wondering if i use vortecs could i use a ls1 tpi intake or am i understanding it wrong? do they have the same bolt pattern or whatever? or am i totally off my rocker in thinking this?

 

I like the way the ls 1 intakes look better then the tpi ones, and i just thought of something while typing this. If my blocks a 80-84 block can i still use vortec style heads and tpi manifold if i cant use a ls1 intake?

 

Does what im asking make sence?

 

Thomas

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Theres a guy in the gen III and IV chevys putting a ls1 intake on a block with vortec heads i think and i was wondering if i use vortecs could i use a ls1 tpi intake or am i understanding it wrong? do they have the same bolt pattern or whatever? or am i totally off my rocker in thinking this?

 

I like the way the ls 1 intakes look better then the tpi ones, and i justthought of something while typing this. If my blocks a 80-84 block can i still use vortec style heads and tpi manifold if i cant use a ls1 intake?

 

Does what im asking make sence?

 

Thomas

 

Most likely he is using the LS intake with the newer gen 3/4 style vortec heads and block that have different shape ports then the older engines.

 

For your 80-84 gen1 block you want to use the 96-99 style vortec heads. They will bolt right on. I'm using them on a 70 4 bolt main block. Then just find a manifold you like with the vortec pattern.

 

Hope that helps.

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Most likely he is using the LS intake with the newer gen 3/4 style vortec heads and block that have different shape ports then the older engines.

 

For your 80-84 gen1 block you want to use the 96-99 style vortec heads. They will bolt right on. I'm using them on a 70 4 bolt main block. Then just find a manifold you like with the vortec pattern.

 

Hope that helps.

 

 

darn thats depressing, not really woulda been cool to use a ls1 type intake they look soo cool but i dont have the money for a ls1 haha. It helps, as i always tell Grumpy when i ask him weird questions. My job is extreamly boring and so is my life so all i do is think think think. Then before i know it im thinking of ideas that end up not workable or so you know what i mean?

 

Thomas

 

ps thanks again for the help

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Grumpy, I think it is awesome that you are helping so many people. If you have a minute I would like your ideas on selecting a different camshaft for my 385. It is currently in a '78 camaro in front of a T-56 and a 4.10/posi, but it may end up in a 240Z soon. It puts down 340 Rwhp, and 370lb tq. Torque is better than 350 from 3000-5000, But it gives up the hp sharply at about 5500rpm. The dyno owner said there is more in it but it was running @ 10:1 AFR from 4000 on up according to his wideband. However according to my LM-1 it runs consistant at 12.7-13.2 AFR all the way up and the plugs look good and clean. The bottom end is built to spin north of 6500 if I want to, but that will require a cam change, and I would like to know what your recommendation is on a cam, here are the specs.

 

.040 over 4 bolt block, decked to 9.000"

5140 Crank, Eagle H-beam 6" rods, and Dished pistons @ about 10.2:1, C&A ZeroGap rings, Jesel Belt Drive, TFS 62cc, 195cc heads,

RPM AirGap, and Edelbrock 750, 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" True Dual exhaust

Mallory Digital6, and Accel HEI.

 

and the cam in it now:

Comp Cams Hydraulic Roller, 4/7 swap, small base circle

270/280 advertised dur

219/224 @ .050 dur

.526/.525 Lift w/1.5 RollerRockers

106 intake centerline

110 LSA

It builds 195-200 psi on hot comp. test

 

This thing runs great on the street, but I want to see just what is possible with this engine. It might get a 700R4 behind it in the near future as well, so a recommendation on the stall would also be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

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Grumpy, I think it is awesome that you are helping so many people. If you have a minute I would like your ideas on selecting a different camshaft for my 385. It is currently in a '78 camaro in front of a T-56 and a 4.10/posi, but it may end up in a 240Z soon. It puts down 340 Rwhp, and 370lb tq. Torque is better than 350 from 3000-5000, But it gives up the hp sharply at about 5500rpm. The dyno owner said there is more in it but it was running @ 10:1 AFR from 4000 on up according to his wideband. However according to my LM-1 it runs consistant at 12.7-13.2 AFR all the way up and the plugs look good and clean. The bottom end is built to spin north of 6500 if I want to, but that will require a cam change, and I would like to know what your recommendation is on a cam, here are the specs.

 

.040 over 4 bolt block, decked to 9.000"

5140 Crank, Eagle H-beam 6" rods, and Dished pistons @ about 10.2:1, C&A ZeroGap rings, Jesel Belt Drive, TFS 62cc, 195cc heads,

RPM AirGap, and Edelbrock 750, 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" True Dual exhaust

Mallory Digital6, and Accel HEI.

 

and the cam in it now:

Comp Cams Hydraulic Roller, 4/7 swap, small base circle

270/280 advertised dur

219/224 @ .050 dur

.526/.525 Lift w/1.5 RollerRockers

106 intake centerline

110 LSA

It builds 195-200 psi on hot comp. test

 

This thing runs great on the street, but I want to see just what is possible with this engine. It might get a 700R4 behind it in the near future as well, so a recommendation on the stall would also be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

 

 

sorry I took a while to get to this (I HAD COMPUTER PROBLEMS)

 

to relieably spin that rpm level and to make consistantly better power in a first gen sbc youll want to use a semi mild solid roller lifter cam,and solid lifters designed for a hot street use, and inspite of what most guys tell you hydraulic roller cams in gen 1 sbc engines do tend to get into valve control issues above 6500rpm, in gen 1 sbc , with its smaller dia cam cores but because of the larger base circle the LS1 engines the same lifters tend to work ok to about 6700-6800rpm

 

similar to these specs (LSA ,DURATION, LIFT)

 

http://www.crower.com/misc/cam_spec/cam_finder.php?part_num=00425&x=13&y=9

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Grumpy,

 

Hi I've been thinking about doing a swap and making some power with my 280zx but i dont no what route to take. Im 18 about to graduate and i wanted to do a swap over the summer. I could get my hands on an lt1 or old carb'd 350 pretty easy. But i want to daily drive the car and i want the swap to be not insanely hard. Other than a different drive shaft, trans, fuel pump, and motor mounts. what else would i need for an older 350 swap? and what different would i neet for an lt1 swap? and lastly witch one would be easier? thanks

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Hi grumpy I have just pulled the cam from a 2 bolt 350 (going in my z) it was a little lumpy on idle and has done 90,000 mls so I am only doing a freshen up my problem is what is the cam as I would like to upgrade but purchased the motor second hand I do have the numbers off the end of the cam 965584 these are stamped n0 and it has casting marks cmc & 1539 can you put any light on what it is thank you . PS keep up the good work . ALEC.

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Grumpy,

 

Hi I've been thinking about doing a swap and making some power with my 280zx but i dont no what route to take. Im 18 about to graduate and i wanted to do a swap over the summer. I could get my hands on an lt1 or old carb'd 350 pretty easy. But i want to daily drive the car and i want the swap to be not insanely hard. Other than a different drive shaft, trans, fuel pump, and motor mounts. what else would i need for an older 350 swap? and what different would i neet for an lt1 swap? and lastly witch one would be easier? thanks

 

BUY AND READ THRU THE JTR MANUAL AS THE FIRST STEP!

 

http://www.jagsthatrun.com/Pages/Datsun_Z_V-8.html

 

NEXT ID STRONGLY ADVISE FINDING A LOCAL GUY WHO HAS DONE THE SWAP TO HELP OR AT LEAST SOMEONE FAMILIAR WITH ENGINE SWAPS THATS GOT TOOLAS AND A WELDER, IF YOU WERE LOCAL ID SUGGEST BRINGING IT BY AND WE COULD DISCUSS OPTIONS

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Hi grumpy I have just pulled the cam from a 2 bolt 350 (going in my z) it was a little lumpy on idle and has done 90,000 mls so I am only doing a freshen up my problem is what is the cam as I would like to upgrade but purchased the motor second hand I do have the numbers off the end of the cam 965584 these are stamped n0 and it has casting marks cmc & 1539 can you put any light on what it is thank you . PS keep up the good work . ALEC.

 

 

965584 is NOT a chevy, crane,crower,blue racer,isky,lunati,erson ,doug herbert, chet herbert,or any other companys cam, part number IM familiar with

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I have a 406 the front header tubes 2 and 4 are not getting hot I have adjusted valves several times ,checked compression and checked for external vacuum leaks. I have checked timing (numerous times) rejetted carb the list goes on and on I will do the propane test sat ,I think the intake is leaking from the bottom. I also get a pop throught the exhaust every so often too in addition the car seems to want more initial timing than is usual ,20 degrees,there is no vacuum advance I have 15 degrees of mechamical advance . alsop these are dart heads 200 cc runner with 750 holley double pump .I have 17 pounds of vacuum at idle and 180 pounds of compression any ideas?

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